Best transfer window ever?

Discuss...

Reiss Nelson signs on loan with Feyenoord

Loan to Feynord confirmed. Slightly surprised we didn't persue this one.

Saido Berahino

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:D. The pre Vieira Palace maybe…

Rumour: Tomas Ribeiro

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Anyone know anything about this guy?

September Betting Masters 214

BM - 214 ...All welcome, show the BBS who the best punter is; don't delay join today!

The Louis Order of Merit

After June BM (and BM CLC spring)

1) Funk Butter - 38
1) Stigma - 38
3) Louis - 37
4) PoolKing - 30
5) 3 Beers at HT - 25
6) Little Fozzie - 24
7) StuNick - 8
8) gjohnk - 5
8) Flat Noodle - 5
8) eagles073 - 5

Previous winners:

1: el mico
2: three-way 0-0-0 final draw !!!(Plugster, late mail and odds against)
3: Finbar
4: Grim Reaper
5: EagleSE24
6: LLCOOLSTEVE
7: Stigma
8: Stigma
9: Stigma
10: Tor
11: Finbar
12: Finbar
13: old git
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Overall best betting in 2004: Stigma
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14. Reps AJ
15. bradley eagle
16. Tor
17. LLCOOLSTEVE
18. stevejfh
19. Tor
20. Finbar
21. Drunk eagle
22. Ozeagle
23. LLCOOLSTEVE
24. Wildcat Army
25. LLCOOLSTEVE
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Overall best better in 2005: stevejfh
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26: si1965
27: Ozeagle
28: srs9jps
29. si1965
30: hakers
31: Tor (WC '06)
32: srs9jps
33: NO1FAN
34: Drunk eagle
35: Stigma
36: Stigma
37: DedBallSpeshlst
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Overall best better in 2006: Flat Noodle
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38: LLCOOLSTEVE
39: Finbar
40: richdeniro
41: Stigma
Champions league winner 06/07: Ian Hart
UEFA Cup winner 06/07: Gav The Hamster
42: Finbar
43: Funk Butter
44: PoolKing
45: Funk Butter
46: Drunk Eagle
47: StuNick
48: Stigma
49: StuNick
Champions league winner 07/08-1: Finbar
UEFA Cup winner 07/08-1: Gav The Hamster
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Overall best better in 2007: Finbar
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50: GodstoneEagle
51: Funk Butter
52: Finbar
53: Funk Butter
54: LLCOOLSTEVE
55: Al From Bromley
56: Stigma
2008 Olympics: pauldrulez
57: pauldrulez
58: NO1FAN
59: Al From Bromley
60: Drunk Eagle
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Overall best better in 2008: StuNick
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61: StuNick
62: ardeo
63: Stigma
64: LLCOOLSTEVE
65: Finbar
66: No1Fan
67: Al From Bromley
68: Al From Bromley
69: Funk Butter
70: DedBallSpeshlst
71: Kayjay
72: Gooders
73: gjohnk
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Overall best better in 2009: Funk Butter
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74: Finbar
75: StuNick
76: DedBallSpeshlst
77: Swanny32
78: Funk Butter
79: Funk Butter
80: gjohnk
81: Finbar
82: MynamenisnotMax
83: No1Fan
84: gjohnk
85: Little Fozzie
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World Cup 2010 winner: old git
Overall best better in 2010: GodstoneEagle
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86: Flat Noodle
87: Finbar
88: GodstoneEagle
89: Flat Noodle
90: mynameisnotmax
91: Louis
92: Funk Butter
93: gjohnk
94: DedBallSpeshlst
95: Stigma
96: cantspell
97: No1Fan
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2011 Order of Merit Winner: Finbar
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March 100th edition knockout special: Little Fozzie
Champions league winner 1st half 2011: Finbar
Champions league winner 2nd half 2011: StuNick
Jan - May UEFA Cup winner 2011: StuNick
Aug - Dec UEFA Cup winner 2011: Housey100

98: 3 Beers at HT
99: StuNick
100: cantspell
101: Funk Butter
102: Finbar
103: Swanny32
104: Funk Butter
105: Louis
106: srs9jps
107: Funk Butter
108: LLCOOLSTEVE
109: Funk Butter
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2012 Order of Merit Winner: Funk Butter
August - Dec 2012 Champions League winner: Swanny32
August - Dec 2012 UEFA Cup winner: JamTheEagle
Jan - May 2012 Champions League winner: No1Fan
Jan - May 2012 UEFA Cup winner: Ian Hart
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110: Louis
111: Louis
112: Gooders
113: Finbar
114: Little Fozzie
115: StuNick
116: Flat Noodle
117: Louis
118: evvo111
119: srs9jps
120: StuNick
121: LLCOOLSTEVE
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2013 Order of Merit Winner: Louis

Jan - May 2013 Champions League Winner: Gooders
Jan - May 2013 UEFA Cup winner: Scoopster
Aug - Dec 2013 Champions League Winner: Little Fozzie
Aug - Dec 2013 UEFA Cup Winner: Stigma
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122: No1Fan
123: PoolKing
124: LLCOOLSTEVE
125: 3 Beers at HT
126: Louis
127: Finbar
128: LLCOOLSTEVE
129: 3 Beers at HT
130: Finbar
131: Funk Butter
132: Stig
133: Louis

2014 Order of Merit winner: Finbar
Jan - May 2014 Champions League Winner: Stigma
Jan - May 2014 UEFA Cup winner: Bellyman
Aug - Dec 2014 Champions League Winner: Ardeo
Aug - Dec 2014 UEFA Cup Winner: PoolKing
Winter Olympics 2014 Winner: srs9jps

134: Gooders
135: Finbar
136: 3 Beers at HT
137: Funk Butter
138: €pfc
139: Gooders
140: Funk Butter
141: Louis
142: evvo111
143: pauldrulez
144: Louis
145: evvo111

2015 Order of Merit winner: Finbar
Jan - May 2015 Champions League Winner: Funk Butter
Jan - May 2015 UEFA Cup winner: Flat Noodle
Aug - Dec 2015 Champions League Winner: PoolKing
Aug - Dec 2015 UEFA Cup Winner: Little Fozzie
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146: Louis
147: PoolKing
148: Louis
149: evvo111
150: LLCOOLSTEVE
151: StuNick
152: 3 Beers at HT
153: evvo111
154: Finbar
155: 3 Beers at HT
156: Finbar
157: StuNick
2016 Order of Merit winner: StuNick
Jan - May 2016 Champions League Winner: Finbar
Jan - May 2016 UEFA Cup winner: Little Fozzie
Euros 2016 special winner: 3 Beers at HT
2016 Olympics Winner: Funk Butter
Aug - Dec 2016 Champions League Winner: gjohnk
Aug - Dec 2016 UEFA Cup Winner: €pfc

158: 3 Beers at HT
159: Stigma
160: Finbar
161: 3 Beers at HT
162: StuNick
163: Louis
164: Louis
165: PoolKing
166: Louis
167: Finbar
168: Kayjay
169: StuNick
2017 Order of Merit winner: StuNick
Jan - May 2017 Champions League Winner: gjohnk
Jan - May 2017 UEFA Cup winner: Funk Butter
Aug - Dec 2017 Champions League Winner: StuNick
Aug - Dec 2017 UEFA Cup Winner: Louis

170: Louis
171: Finbar
172: Louis
173: Stigma
174: Finbar
175: Louis
176: Stigma
177: StuNick
178: Funk Butter
179: Stigma
180: Finbar
181: Funk Butter
2018 Order of Merit winner: Stigma
Jan - May 2018 Champions League Winner: gjohnk
Jan - May 2018 UEFA Cup winner: eagles073
World Cup BM 2018: 3 Beers at HT
Aug - Dec 2018 Champions League Winner: Stigma
Aug - Dec 2018 UEFA Cup Winner: StuNick

182: Stigma
183: PoolKing
184: StuNick
185: Louis
186: Funk Butter
187: Funk Butter
188: Louis
189: aj4england
190: StuNick
191: Finbar
192: PoolKing
193: Funk Butter
2019 Order of Merit winner: PoolKing
Jan - May 2019 Champions League Winner: StuNick
Jan - May 2019 UEFA Cup winner: Little Fozzie
Aug - Dec 2019 Champions League Winner: Little Fozzie
Aug - Dec 2019 UEFA Cup Winner: PoolKing

194: Kayjay
195: Finbar
196: Finbar
197: 3 Beers at HT
198: Finbar
199: StuNick
200: kayjay
201: Finbar
202: Louis
203: Funk Butter
204: 3 Beers at HT
205: Funk Butter
Order of Merit winner: Funk Butter
Jan - Jul 2020 Champions League Winner: StuNick
Jan - Jul 2020 UEFA Cup winner: eagles073
Sep - Dec 2020 Champions League Winner: Funk Butter
Sep - Dec 2020 UEFA Cup Winner: eagles073
206: Stigma
207: 3 Beers at HT
208: PoolKing
209: PoolKing
210: Stigma
211: Stigma
212: 3 Beers at HT
213:
214:
215:
216:
Jan - Jul 2021 Champions League Winner: Funk Butter
Jan - Jul 2021 UEFA Cup winner: Louis
Euros Special 2020 Winner: 3 Beers at HT
2020 Summer Olympics Winner: 3 Beers at HT

Rules are as follows

1 Every player has 200 points to bet with in the first round.

2 Each separate bet made is 10 points meaning players have 20 bets during the first 20 days. Maximum bet on a single market is 10 points, same rule applies for identical multis (basically no duplicate bets though you can do a team A, team B double on one bet and then add team C for a treble in another bet)

3 In the second round the 4* finalists all start by carrying forward 25% of their score from the first round added to the 150 points that can bet used in the second round. The person who qualifies for the final with the most points also gets an additional 10pt bet. (*if the number of participants gets to 16 or more, then a 5th finalist place will be added and then one more for every 5 players on top of that).

4 Betting Masters, first group stages runs from 0000 on the first of the month (standard UK time) to 2359hrs on the 20th of the month. Then the top four* posters come together in a mini league from there on until the end of the month.
Final bet settlement must occur before 2359 on the last day of the month.

5 Naturally the winner is the person with the highest score at the end of the last day of the month.

6 Scoring consists of total winnings and is inclusive of 10 point stake i.e. someone bets on a 6/4 horse and it wins their score becomes 25 (15 points profits plus the 10 pt stake) There is no score for any bets not used. Losing bets are scored as zero, not -10.
Any bet from an exchange bookie will have a 4% commission (on the winnings), if nothing else is explicitly stated in the post.

7 Players must quote where they're getting their prices.

8 Singles and upwards accepted.

9 For boxed multis and bets such as Yankees, each separate bet within the bet counts as separate and will cost 10pts per bet. e.g. ten trebles from five selections will use up 100 points.

10. E/W bets are counted as two bets in the masters, which means 10 points x 2

11. For tracking purposes, players are requested to put the outcome of their bets on the post for all events other than European soccer/tennis.

12. Where possible players are requested to put down a running total of their bets in their posts, although I'll also try and produce rolling league tables where possible.

13. After a bet has been posted up, one is not allowed to edit it..

14. The bets must be possible to do in real life, meaning for example that if you got a multi, all the odds have to come from 1 bookmaker. You can’t shop around for the highest odds and put them together. "Special promotion" type bets are not allowed though BOG (Best Odds Guaranteed) are.

15. Bets must be placed at odds of 1/10 (or 1.1 in decimal) or higher

16. Any Draw No Bet bets where the result is a push will always have the bet settled as void, never 10pts. Any asian handicap bet where the result is a push (in full) will have the bet settled as void. Any asian handicap where half of the stake is returned will be marked down as 5pts with the remainder of the Asian handicap settled as a win or a loss (this is applicable for asian handicaps such as 2.25 or -2, -2.5 etc)

17. In the event that a player is not sure if their bet will finish in time, before midnight on the 20th or midnight for qualifying midnight on the final day of the month for the final, they can make a provisional bet or bets which then become actual bets only if their original selection(s) finishes at 12.01am or after.

Poyet sacked effectively

The wheels have come off the Gus Bus again.

In the Chilean league.

He has managed to make a multiple title winning side with some continental trophy aspirations into a bit of a laughing stock. Took him about half a season I think.

Micah Richards - laugh

Think this deserves own thread and perhaps a poll.
A simple yes or no.
I’m a ‘no’.
I don’t think I can stand hearing it for much longer.

Discussion: TDD Trolly Dash

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We will also be going out on our YouTube channel.

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List of Lists

I'm a bit nerdy, most of us by definition of being on the BBS are a bit nerdy, and blokes tens to like a list (top tens and the like).

Any subject. Ant number of entrants. Order specified or not.

I will kick us off with... Favourite films of the 80s. Not the best or most citically acclaimed, but the ones I have watched over and over. 12 of the buggers, no order.

Raging Bull
Gremlins
Trading Places
Karate Kid
Risky Business
Blues Brothers
American Werewolf in London
Stir Crazy
Airplane
Ferris Bueller
Officer and a Gentleman
Rocky III

Estate agent (letting) advice

Im i need of a bit of advice about renting a property.
Any estate agents can give me a bit of private advice?
The property area may well be in the tescobags catchment, so you are doing gods work 😉

Traditional Family Recipes

Strange day the first family event since my Mum died earlier this year my sisters birthday. Son did a birthday tea and wanted to add a touch of tradition to the food. It could only be one thing. Known in our family as Fluffy Jelly its simple make a jelly but use half the water let it cool but not set add evaporated milk to make up jelly liquid to right amount. Then whisk with an electric hand wisk it increases in size by a fair bit.

It is a tradition in the family and follows my Dads recipe. Which I had to explain to son. For instance one ungnawed jelly...a knock at my Mums habit of always eating a square of the jelly before making up the rest. Add to a ten gallon bowl asked what one of those was. Had to confess brought a bit of dust to my eye.

Just got me wondering what other family recipes do others have.

Mine is cauliflower cheese might be because i use strong cheese dijon mustard salt pepper smother the top in cheese as well. However its the always requested Sunday Roast side dish.

The Crystals

Not been seen this season ?

Ed Asner

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Used to regularly watch Lou Grant. RIP

Rumour: Amad Dial

Manchester United boss Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has revealed that young forward Amad Diallo has agreed a loan transfer for the new season.

The 19-year-old has enjoyed a solid rise at Old Trafford since moving to England in January. But following a busy summer up front for the Red Devils, his future in Manchester looks uncertain. Indeed, in a shock twist on Friday, Cristiano Ronaldo joined Jadon Sancho as a new blockbuster signing.

Meanwhile, Jadon Sancho, Mason Greenwood and Daniel James are among other stars seeking game time.

As such, Amad has had strong links with a move away for the season. Crystal Palace and Sheffield United are among the clubs reportedly showing interest in a deal.

Solskjaer revealed in a press conference that a loan move for the teenager has moved a step closer.

“Yes I do [expect him to go out on loan],” the manager said. “It’s not 100 per cent signed but we’ve agreed,” Ole said.

“I don’t have to say which team it is yet [smiles], but we’ve found a place that Amad feels excited about and we feel excited about.”

Reports have claimed that Amad is holding out for a Premier League move to boost his chances of a United breakthrough.

2020 Tokyo Paralympics

Anyone been watching this? I’ve starting watching Ade Adepitan’s daily highlights show on Catchup, it’s on C4 everyday at 5. Some fine GB performances especially cycling.

RIP Lee "Scratch" Perry

Reggae and dub legend. :(
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Best Pint of Guinness…

Was sat in The Toucan in Soho yesterday, sipping a wonderful creamy pint of the black stuff. Anyone who drinks Guinness will know it’s so hit & miss from pub to pub, so when you find somewhere that does a good pint - it’s a keeper. Anyone got any spots where the Guinness is reliable that they’d like to share?

I’ll start with previously mentioned Toucan in Soho & The Ramble Inn, Tooting.

Player Ratings And Reviews: West Ham 2-2 Palace

Walking out of their end and loving it!!! A point is a great result.

Thought we rode our luck but who cares. They are a good side and it’s a great point.

Gallagher absolutely superb.

The forward line was very weak. Ayew battled hard and was an irritant to them. Benteke was poor. Wilf average at best.

Can’t stand this passing at the back. Andersen was good but got bullied for the second goal. Poor defending.

Kouyate can’t play centre midfield imo but McArthur was busy and good.

Really important point.

Do we need to talk about Guaita?

I was obviously in the minority because despite a few standout games (like Spurs at home), I didn't think Guaita was good in general last season but he then won POTY.

I haven't really been impressed by him at the start of this season either.

I think he could have done better on two of the Chelsea goals and I thought he was very poor today. Ward's goal line clearance rescued him once, there were other mistakes and then he made a poor decision on the first goal too.

Is it just me? Or should be looking for a new keeper in the not too distant future too?

Is Butland worth trying in the PL?

I know we probably have bigger priorities in terms of recruitment but if your keeper is dodgy it can cause anxiety through the whole team and can cost you a lot of points.

Match Updates: Aug 28 - 29

Cardiff City v Bristol City
Championship
12:30
Sky Sports Red Button


Derby County v Nottingham Forest
Championship
12:30
Sky Sports Main Event / Sky Sports Football


Man City v Arsenal
Premier League
12:30
BT Sport 1 / BT Sport Ultimate


Southend United v Stockport County
National League
17:20
BT Sport 1


Liverpool v Chelsea
Premier League
17:30
Sky Sports Main Event / Sky Sports Premier League / Sky Sports Ultra HD


Peterborough United v West Brom
Championship
20:00
Sky Sports Football

Live Com and Updates: West Ham United v Crystal Palace KO 15:00

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Help pls - memberships

Having real trouble trying to purchase a membership for my son. I logged in and it wouldn't let me buy a junior membership because I am 40. I logged out and tried to buy while logged out but now I need to "identify the client." Do I have to set up his own account first?

Sorry for the stupid question!

Speculation: Borja Mayoral

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nine midfielders, who starts?

With the arrival of Hughes we now have nine midfielders:

Kouyate, Macca, Jairo, Luka, Hughes, Gallagher (all centre / CDM)
Olise, Eze, Schlupp (wide / attacking)

Based on how we line up, these players will be competing for three or four starting places. Appreciate that Eze is likely out until Christmas but this is a lot of options given that we currently only have two out and out strikers and one left back.

Match Ticket Information: Tickets for Spurs & Brighton

Does anyone know when tickets are due to go on sale for home games in September ? There is nothing on the club website.

Press Conference Live: Pre-West Ham Friday 1pm

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Speculation: Manuel Corona

I have cut and pasted this from a Palace group in facebook

**Breaking News** Crystal Palace have agreed a deal to sign Will Hughes from Watford who will undergo a medical on Friday. The south London club are also in talks to sign FC Porto's Mexican right back Jesús Manuel Corona who will be having a medical early next week. Patrick Vieira has stated he is keen to also bring in a striker with the eagles focusing their attention on Eddie Nketiah and Odsonne Edouard.

The Fox, Keston

Hello!

Some of you back in 2012 might remember a post I made about The Swan in West Wickham.

My parents took that pub over for about 5-6 years and had a very successful period earning various pub and community awards in West Wickham.

Well, my parents decided to sell there lease to Bermondsey Pub Co. for various reasons.

4 years later and my parents have decided to venture back into the business they know so well and have taken over The Fox in Keston.

Now the pubs are slightly different but it will have the same feel as the Swan did.

Pub Grub, Lots of TV's, Lots of sport friendly atmosphere and of course lots of Palace! Prices are reasonable for the area! :D

So if you live local, fancy a pint, come to The Fox in Keston. All the bar-staff are friendly and the prices are reasonable.

Tickets for troops.

Hello everyone!

Haven't posted on here for a very long time, one of my lasts threads was about joining the navy or going to university.

Well, I've been in the navy for 8 years now and I'm currently deployed on HMS Queen Elizabeth on operations somewhere around the South China sea.

There is a website the military use called 'Tickets for Troops'. And from what I've seen Palace games are never on there.

The website gives military personnel the chance to get cheaper tickets or even free tickets for the team they support. As I'm always at sea or deployed I can hardly get to any games, which means when I am home getting tickets is always difficult.

Does Steve Parish still look at this site? Just wondering if they could set something up.

Crystal Ball: West Ham at Paid-for-by-your-taxes Stadium

Score, scorers and attendance please

Our PL title winning team from our past.

Following on from the other thread, I was thinking about a team with 3 possible subs and a manager who could possibly win us the PL when they were all at their peak.

Names like Sansom, Wright and Taylor were straight in there for me but I'll have to think about it.

The manager one is tricky as Venables keeps coming to the forefront.

Wayne Hennessey

He is the BBC headline tonight against Newcastle. Made three fantastic saves and saved two penalties. Wonder how much he would cost after that? Burnley certainly know a bit about recruiting keepers. Good for the dickheads to have driven him out of the club

Benjamin Mendy

The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) has authorised Cheshire Constabulary to charge a man in connection with allegations of sexual assault.

Benjamin Mendy, aged 27, has been charged with four counts of rape and one count of sexual assault.

The charges relate to three complainants over the age of 16 and are alleged to have taken place between October 2020 and August 2021.

Mendy, of Withinlee Road, Prestbury, has been remanded in police custody and is set to appear at Chester Magistrates’ Court on Friday 27 August.

Cheshire Constabulary and the Crown Prosecution Service would like to remind everyone that criminal proceedings against Mendy are live and that he has a right to a fair trial.

It is extremely important that there should be no reporting, commentary or sharing of information online which could in any way prejudice ongoing proceedings.

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Benteke - in Belgium squad yet again

Benteke has been selected for the Belgium squad yet again.

40 caps and 16 goals so far.

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AFCON etc. Watch This Space

I see that big European leagues are refusing to let their players travel to South America for the S. American WC qualifiers, and an argument is brewing with the parties involved.

They seem to be hiding behind some Covid Red List country excuse. Not sure why Chile is still on the Red List TBH.

I say watch this space because AFCON is in January. Liverpool have Salah and Mane. I am thinking they are preparing the waters. Not like Liverpool to put club before country.

There is talk of switching the fixyures to mid October, but the likes of Inter don-t like that because it clashes with the league and Champion-s League fixtures. I

Based on that, the real reason on the embargo is pretty evident.

No problem for the Euros, or a Copa America in plague ridden Brasil, all in close season. And for a raft of pointles friendlies pre/tournaments. But now the serious club business is back on, it becomes an issue. Chelsea, for example, lost a player last weekend who got the virus while being free to play in The Plague Island League.

RIP Bob Fish (Darts)

Died a couple of days ago I believe... Sang lead on a few hits including It’s Raining’...
Gawd, can’t have been that old... Saw Darts a few times in late seventies, fabulous live with Den Hegarty, Rita Ray and the rest...
RIP Bob!

One Player From Our Past

Choose any player that you think could be dropped into this team to bring it to life & why you’d choose him ?

I’ll start it off with Geoff Thomas , was the pivotal point of the team he was in & a driving force as well

Travel Information: West Ham

Note DLR is closed between Lewisham and Westferry this weekend.

Marble Arch Mound ..... wow!

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Rumour: Weston McKennie

More chance of getting a soapy rub down from Mila Kunis but here you go:

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Weston McKennie is being heavily linked with a move to Aston Villa. According to reports in Italy, Villa are a fan of the Juventus midfielder with Premier League rivals Everton, Tottenham and Crystal Palace all said to be keen on a move for the former Schalke man. Italian media outlet Gazzetta has reported that new Juve manager Massimiliano Allegri is likely not to play McKennie in his team now that he has replaced Andrea Pirlo, who signed McKennie last year. The United States international initially signed on loan before making the move to Juventus permanent for around £15 million in March.

Five Year Plan/One More Point - Collaboration Issue - OUT SEPT 11th v Spurs

Announcing the collaboration issue - the rebirth of One More Point (but without the Pritt Stick)

Old school fanzine writing mixed with a modern fanzine gloss and artwork.

In 2003 OMP helped 'Five Year Plan' get up and running and now it's come full circle - OMP is taking over the reins of the longest running* Palace fanzine FYP and bringing some of the 90s fanzine spirit and mixing it with the well written articulate stuff you know from the FYP guys.

You liked OMP? You'll like this as well :p

You hated OMP? Buy it anyway and just ignore the bits I wrote ;)

Used to read them but forgot about the existence of fanzines? Fair enough - give this one a try and see what you think

What's a fanzine, isn't everything online now? Not quite. Palace have had a fanzine (usually more than one) every year since 1987 - we're not letting the tradition die just yet

So, bring your cash on September 11th i.e. coins as we don't have card payment facilities just yet (but the way world's going it might be the case for future issues) and keep the tradition alive.


* Longest running English fanzine - Norway's Orneblikket still way out in front overall

Rumour: Layvin Kurzawa

PSG based account (PSGhub) with 25k followers claiming he's been offered to us and Vieira is keen. Left back. An area we desperately need to fill.

EDIT: the info originally from Santi Aouna- journalist with a verified account and 33k followers.

Jordan Ayew

There seem to be a growing number of posters here on the BBS and on Twitter criticising Jordan Ayew. What short memories you all have! He had a fantastic 2019/20 and continues to perform well when given a central role. He is filling a wide position because we have no other options and against Brentford we improved significanly when he replaced Schlupp. Given that we have scored no goals in three games there is a strong case for giving him a starting central role. But not at all clear how we could make that work and accomodate WZ and CB. Thoughts?

It's funny how...

Last season Roy was criticised for not playing Reidewald and Mitchell enough, but now lots of people are saying they're not good enough. It's almost like Roy had some idea what he was doing. (For the record, I'm not anti either of those players, just making a point.)

How to play it out from the back (the Vieira way)

We are struggling with this from what I’ve seen so far. Riedewald has been jettisoned, rightly imho, because he can’t defend. Full backs are diabolical on the ball when under no pressure, and panic when a semblance of a press materialises. Kouyate is not going to become a playmaker anchoring the midfield any time soon. New centre backs are excellent but is that enough?

Does anyone have any ideas? Everyone needs to stay calm, we are 3 games into the season, but I just can’t see how we are going to pass it out with the current crop of players. Will that impact on our ability to win some games? Either we need multiple new signings or PV will have to think radically, well outside the box, with what he currently has. Just wonder where we go from here.

Player Ratings And Reviews: Watford away (cup)

For those that went and not just listening on the radio, watched SNN or Teletext/Oracle. You played ratings, thoughts, MOM etc please …

PLAYED 3, SCORED NIL

So when was the last time we started a season without a goal in our first 3 games, including cup matches?

Hardly an auspicious start. It's well over 40 years as far as I can tell...

Roy Keane Twat

Never liked the prick, but as a pundit he keeps digging at Viera, who obviously has no right to reply, the media are wanking all over it. What fun a target that can’t dig back.

RIP Charlie Watts

BBC News - Rolling Stones drummer Charlie Watts dies at 80
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Pubs for: West Ham

Pubs for this?

Brian Travers RIP

UB40 sax player, has passed at 62. Their earlier stuff was excellent and right for the time.

RIP.

Liverpool refusing to release players for internationals if they have to quarantine

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Rumour: Kerr Smith

Crystal Palace will join Southampton in making a bid for Dundee United youngster Kerr Smith before the close of the window.

The Saints have already opened talks with United but have been unable to come to an agreement yet.

It is understood that it would take a major six figure bid, with additional extras, to even get the Tannadice to the table.

Southampton are expected to try and up their offer now that Premier League rivals Palace are set to enter the fray.

Palace previously moved to sign Scott Banks on freedom of contract from United.

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Discussion: Maxwell Cornet

Heard he is going to Burnley. Wonder if we should of gone after him. He can play left back and on the wing. Only 15 million. Probably would come here then Burnely.

Quiz shows

Which do you enjoy or leave you feeling thick as mince?
I do slightly better at University Challenge than Only Connect,which does leave me feeling as thick as mince.

Twitter Anguissa

A few reliable sources saying we have made contact for Anguissa. We're trying to loan with an option to buy but Fulham want him bought outright. Quality player.

RIP Brian Travers

Just heard that Brian Travers, UB40 saxophonist, has succumbed to the brain tumours he has been suffering from. Had an operation in June, bit it was unsuccessful..

RIP

Crystal Ball: Watford in the League Cup (or whatever it's called now)

Score, scorers and attendance please. Remember that penalties counts as a draw, regardless of who progresses.

Remembering all those Palace supporters who have sadly died of Covid

I was amazed that there was no mention on the big screen of all those palace supporters who had sadly died of Covid over the last 18 months or a minutes silence before kick off
At Chelsea last Saturday there was an excellent tribute with names on the big screen and a minutes silence There was a very moving tribute at Wolves yesterday.
I have messaged the club .I contacted the supporters trust a couple of months ago suggesting the club could have a memorial service when crowds were allowed back to normal that was mentioned at one of there meetings with the club.

Imagine if we had had a striker...

...worth the title.

9 seasons in the Premier, and we have survived fairly comfortably with one season of Benteke on form.

Take our team over those 9 seasons and add in a Vardy, Ings, Jiminez et al, and think of all those extra points and league places.

If we calculate the Premier League including all teams that have spent say 4 of those 9 seasons in the top flight, we most be the lowest scorers or at least a long way off what the average return must be.

We put all our eggs into the two Ex Liverpool players basket, and I suppose we were unlucky. Imagine if we had been a bit luckier in that respect, and had picked the right gem.

Then, take Zaha out of the picture...:eek:

R.I.P Don Everley

Just read One half of the Everley brothers died today age 84. A great duo who had a lot of influence in the early 60s. Not sure if Phil is still alive.

Suggested Team and Formation For: West Ham (away)

————————————-Guaita——————————————-
Ward———-Andersen——————Guehi——————Schlupp
———————————-Milivojevic——————————————
—————Gallagher————————-McArthur———————-
———Ayew-—————-Benteke————————Zaha

Mitchell isn’t doing it. Let’s give Schlupp a go there. If Luka is available then let’s give him a go in the DM role. Badly need Eze, Olise, Ferguson back from injury and hopefully some new signings.

Gallagher-have we finally replaced Cabaye?

CG looks like the absolute annoying,nip at your heels and make the tough tackle midfielder we have been crying out for since Yohan left. Like Cabaye he can also pick a pass and play some nice one touch stuff.

This is exactly what we have needed for a long time

Do we have an option to buy?

Seating / Standing Yesterday

My two sons and I got to our seats yesterday (block c row 5) to find about six or seven blokes standing there. Got them to move over to their own seats but two remained and stood behind us (same seat as us). I got a bit annoyed and told them to F off, so they moved two rows to the front where they found a bit of space. Of the remaining 4 or 5, a couple of them were still encroaching on to our seats and I just didn’t want the hassle of confronting them too.
Anyone else unlucky enough to experience this?
I will just have to get there earlier in future, but these twats really p me off.

Discussion: Contracts Running Out 2022

I didn't realise quite how many of our team was out of contract next summer.

Gallagher + Matteta Loans End
Schlupp, Ayew, Kouyate, Clyne, Tomkins, Mcarthur

Looks like next summer could be as hectic as the one we just had. Again, assume we keep a couple on (Mcarthur, Kouyate probably), will still have to replace 5/6 squad players.

Zaha situation now toxic

I think he needs to be dropped/subbed if attitude continues. It's probably best that he leaves the club if not.

Wilf arguing with Vieira about tactics whilst on the pitch-the normal arm and facial gestures. Thst can't be allowed to continue.

Shaun Derry had to come onto the pitch at half time and have a word.

2nd half, not much better, arguing with ref, instead of joining in with Palace attack. Normal arguing with players becoming distracted.

Final whistle-sulks off doesn't acknowledge any fans.

It's rubbing off on others. Jeff had a face like thunder when he came off and chucked some strapping on the pitch. He didn't acknowledge his replacement, the bench or anyone. He's probably thinking "why always me-is Wilf unsubable??"

It's nothing new, it's been going on for a couple of years now.

The individual performances are no longer there, I'm not sure if he's unable or unwilling to perform anywhere near the level he once was.

Wilf has been great for us over the years and I know this maybe unpopular but it's beyond embarrassing now and it's getting to the point when I just want him gone, rather than taint the memories.

Suggested Team and Formation For: Watford (EFL Cup) 24/8 A

Time to see what others can do.

Butland
Clyne - Tomkins - Kelly - Adaramola
Riedewald
Gallagher - Schlupp
Rak-Sakyi - Mateta - Ayew

Matthews, Ward, Andersen, McArthur, Wells-Morrison, Zaha, Benteke

May be a tad too early for Tayo so will probably be Mitchell or Hannam to see how he gets on.

Zahas pace

Where has it gone? I first noticed how (for his standards) slow he has got in the middle of last season. It's like someone flicked a switch in him and he no longer seems able or willing to sprint past his man.

Back playing a 433 his lack of pace is really highlighted. We can't hit teams on the counter and he can't suddenly break away from defenders either.

I think this may have been a big reason Roy played him as part of a front 2, in the free role his lack of pace didn't matter so much.

Player Ratings And Reviews: Brentford (home)

Let’s get this started straight away. Mods can sort the poll as I’m on the mobile.

Help contacting a Palace fan

I’ve been trying to email the guy who introduced me to Palace back in 1972, but he is not answering my emails and I can’t reach him by phone. Last time we were in contact he said he was probably moving house. That may be the reason I cannot reach him.

If someone is in Block X or Y today, could you check to see if he is at the game and ask him to contact me? I do not have his exact seat number but think he sits in row 10 or 11 and sits in the end seat of Block Y, next to the steps between Block X and Y. His daughter sits next to him.

His name is Will and he’s in his 70s. If he or his daughter is there, ask him to contact Phil in Jakarta.

I would greatly appreciate any help. Thanks.

Match Updates: Aug 21 - 27

QPR v Barnsley
Championship
12:30
Sky Sports Main Event / Sky Sports Football


Sheffield FC v Sherwood Colliery
FA Cup Preliminary Round
12:30
BBC Red Button / BBC iPlayer / BBC Sport Website


Liverpool v Burnley
Premier League
12:30
BT Sport 1 / BT Sport Ultimate


Brighton & Hove Albion v Watford
Premier League
17:30
Sky Sports Premier League / Sky Sports Ultra HD

Live Com and Updates: Crystal Palace v Brentford 15:00 KO

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Discussion: Summer 2021: One more transfer, what would you choose?

Lots of holes, unlikely we can cover them all in this window. So, if there was one new quality addition that we could prioritise, what position would it be for?

Press Conference Live: Pre-Brentford Friday 1pm

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Help from the generous BBS

Good morning all, this year I set myself a challenge to walk 4million steps to raise money for a local baby loss charity, with all money raised to go towards phase 2 of a serenity garden here in Nottingham.
Things have gone well, I'm currently on 2.8 million steps, and the garden opened earlier this year, providing a beautiful place for people to sit and reflect and have plaques added to the sculptures in rememberance.
Unfortunately, the park has unbelievably been vandalised over the last week, making my efforts to raise fund even more important. I've attached a link from the local press regarding the vandalism, I will keep my views on the alleged culprits private, but if anyone would like to donate a couple of quid to help boost the funding, it would be much appreciated

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Premier league rivals

Seems like it could be nonsense, but this survey indicates that Brighton and Palace are the most unanimous rivals in the league.

Any Renault sales people

Just wondered if by chance we have any Renault sales people on here?? I am going to have a arkana as my next car and wondered if there’s a palace supporter I could buy from!!

1991/92 season - game by game

I know the plan was to start this thread on August 24th in line with when the 91-92 season started but I see the 90-91 thread has already started with the pre-season chatter from summer 91.

As it is the season had started for everyone else bar ourselves and Leeds. Our game was rescheduled for October 1st as Palace's introduction of executive boxes at the Whitehorse Lane end overran and weren't complete in time for the opening day on August 17th.

Our second fixture scheduled for midweek (Spurs away?) was also then postponed meaning that by the time Palace would actually kick a ball, they'd already be two games behind the rest of the league.

This will go down in history as Palace's biggest missed opportunity. The 1990-91 season saw our team peak but given two more of the team would go on to become full England internationals in 1991-92, in addition to Wright, Salako and Thomas, all of whom had done well on the England summer tour of Australasia, there was no real reason why the great run had to halt in May 1991.

Three top flight professionals were linked with Palace in summer 1991 - Gary Charles (Forest and England) Rod Wallace (who made the move from Southampton to Leeds for £1.6M) and Mark Wallace (who left Rangers for Liverpool for £1.25M)

Signing Charles + one other would have been a great summer. As it is we did things on the cheap signing Chris Coleman (£275,000) from Swansea who was unproven but would go onto become a very good signing all be it not straight away and journeyman Lee Sinnott who was never up to the required standard.

Travel Information: vs. Brentford - Sat. 21st Aug.

TfL Services

District Line:

No service between Tower Hill and West Ham - a replacement bus service will be in operation (DL6) between Tower Hill and Stratford.

DLR:

No service between Poplar and Beckton - a replacement bus service will be in operation between Canary Wharf and Beckton.

Hammersmith & City Line:

There is a complete line closure planned.

London Overground:

There is no service between New Cross and Surrey Quays - advised to use New Cross Gate instead.

Trains will not run between Highbury & Islington and Shadwell - a replacement bus service will be in operation between Dalston Kingsland and Shadwell.

Northern Line:

No service between Edgware/East Finchley and Moorgate/Kennington - a replacement bus service (NL1) will be in operation between Canons Park and Kings Cross St. Pancras.

London Trams:

No service between Wandle Park and East Croydon - a replacement bus service will be in operation.

Waterloo & City Line:

There is a complete line closure planned.

National Rail Services

Great Northern:

No trains will run to and from Moorgate all day

Thameslink:

No trains will run between London Blackfriars and Sutton via Wimbledon or Mitcham Junction

A reduced service pattern will run between St. Albans and London St. Pancras

Buses will replace trains between Three Bridges and Horsham.

Southern:

Buses will replace trains between Three Bridges and Horsham, between Horsham and Littlehampton, and between Dorking and Horsham.

London Euston:

Reduced services in and out of London Euston affecting Avanti West Coast and London Northwestern Railway due to engineering works.

London Fenchurch Street and London Liverpool Street:

Reduced services in and out of London Fenchurch Street and London Liverpool Street affecting some c2c routes.

Suggested Team and Formation For: CPFC vs Brentford

Well it was a crap game at Chelsea so not surprised no thread. Long term though I'm still optimistic.

The question marks i have from Vieira after game 1 were:

Why did we play one way ALL preseason and hear the players talk about how we want to play etc only to do something totally different in the game?

And having complimented Jimmy on his work rate and desire and highlight the others should take notes he going to change the cm?

Hey ho, we shall see and rhe next line up shall be telling...

----------------------guaita---------------------
Ward-----andersen----guehi-----mitchell
--gallagher-----kouyate----jimmy------
-------ayew------benteke----zaha-------

Subs: butland, Clyne, tomkins, hannam, jairo, schlupp, luka, raki-sakyi, metatarsal

Kouyate the real holding player.

Ward deeper, Mitchell more attacking and the super engines of gallagher and Jimmy marauding!!

Ayew gets another go as I think his critism though valid wasn't allowing for the fact he was only getting the ball if he won it back on tve edge of our own area and tried to dribble through Chelsea midfield.

Player Ratings And Reviews: Chelsea 3-0 Palace

I've got to say, I'm a bit shellshocked after that and will eat a bit of humble pie and say I was completely wrong about how the game would go today.

I can handle a shit performance and I can handle if Chelsea were extremely good because those things can happen but I'm still absolutely mystified at setting up in a 4-4-2 playing Schlupp and Zaha in positions they hadn't played all pre-season.

We need every little percentage against a team like Chelsea and playing 2 players in completely different positions they've played all season is just so strange.

I can understand the rationale, but the first game of the season you actually get to have a practice match against decent opposition before the game, i.e. Watford last week. If we were going to play 4-4-2 why didn't we do it against Watford? I have no problem with tactical flexibility but why not just go with 4-3-3 and if it isn't working then switch it?

Perhaps a marginal improvement on last season's 4-0 drubbing and at least Vieira didn't hesitate to make changes but I still think even with the players we had on the pitch we could have done better.

Joachim Andersen

Deserves his own thread.

Thought he was very comfortable on the ball and held a good line, constantly talking. Seemed happy to push us up the field 20 yards.

Stephen Rice U23 coach leaves

Real shame as he is very highly rated. Our upturn in form coincided with him coming in last season and he has gone back to Ireland to be a coach for the national team, specialising in scouting the opposition in preparation for games. Shame as when you read his CV he really has a roadmap of becoming a manager. He was very positive about Paddy who has now stepped up to replace Derry. Good luck to him, shame it will be working for the most awful Ireland setup ever.

Vuelta a España 2021

Here we go.

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Live Com and Updates: Chelsea V Crystal Palace 15:00 KO

Hi All, welcome back to another season, it will be good to get back to a full Selhurst Park.

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Rumour: Amad Diallo

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Passenger Locator Forms (Transit)

I am going around in circles trying to understand if i need to complete a PLF for a transit stop in Italy on my way to Greece.

Does anyone have experience of this?

My route is Porto-Milan (Ryanair) for transit stop to pick up a connecting flight Milan-Rhodes (Final destination)...i will be staying air-side all the time.

So...do i need 1 (e.g Porto-Rhodes) or 2 seperate PLF's for Portugal/Italy and another for Italy/Greece ?? !!!!!

I cannot find any information about transit flights and what is needed.

RIP Nanci Griffiths

I could have put this in music, but thought most of these go in here.

Really sad news and far too young at 68. Wonderful singer across a number of genre and one of the best voices around.

Membership

Hi was just about to renew my membership and saw what the juniors get, so would rather get for daughter as she will get a shirt. It says ticket access which Is why I want a membership, can anyone confirm I'm ok to buy my daughter a junior and purchase tickets from it when available. Tia

Jake O'Brien

He looks a good prospect to me, did Delaney put us onto him?

Display Planned - Brentford 21/08/2021

Marking the return of a full Selhurst we are planning a display for the game against Brentford.

As ever, these displays are fully fan funded and made possible from donations by the fans which sets Palace fans apart from those in the rest of the country.

We're almost at the target needed to fund the display which is great news with the game being a couple of weeks away.

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Roll on the return and a loud and passionate Selhurst again. :p

Press Conference Live: Pre-Chelsea Friday 1pm

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Match Updates: Aug 13 - 15

Brentford v Arsenal
Premier League
20:00
Sky Sports Main Event / Sky Sports Premier League / Sky One / Sky Sports Ultra HD


Tonight will be Brentford’s first top flight game since 1947, which by coincidence, was at home to Arsenal.

So, the last time Brentford kicked a ball at the top table:

King George VI was on the throne.
The (future) Queen and Prince Phillip got married.
Labour leader Clement Attlee was PM.
Charlton won the FA Cup
Tommy Lawton smashes the transfer record with his £20,000 move to Notts C
Gracie Fields and Frank Sinatra top the charts
David Bowie, Elton John and Marc Bolan are born.

These are some of my favourite things...

...two days to go before the season starts. Let's have a thread to tide us over.

What are some of your favourite things (all stuff valid - even philosophical twaddle) . For sake of avoiding the obvious, I think we can take loved ones, friends, alcohol, BBS and Palace as read.

Laurel and Hardy

Calvin and Hobbbes

The Far Side

Twiglets

Soul Music (and other black genres)

Fry ups, pies, curries, fish and chips.

A touch of dark chocolate.

Getting into a good book or video game.

A few selected TV shows.

A lot of 70's and 80's movies.

Travelling with the missus (family?)

Travelling to Blighty without the missus.

The first few days when the missus and I take a break from each other (I think that is healthy for the marriage).

My pets.

Major Incident in Plymouth

Sounds like shots fired and fatalities :(

Rumour: Lewis O'Brien

Football Insider reporting that we're trying to 'hijack' Leeds United's bid to sign him from Huddersfield.

Usually a reputable account.

Una Stubbs RIP

Very very sad to see this. Loved her as Aunt Sally. Another part of my youth has gone RIP Una and thank you

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Brighton 8/1 to go down

Surely this is worth a few quid?? They have a decent defence and Bissouma is quality in midfield but apart from that they look poor, especially in attack. Their front 3 has to be the worst in the division. 8/1 odds seems very good value....

85% of people globally don’t like their job

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Suggested Team and Formation For: Chelsea vs. CPFC 14.8.21

Guaita
Ward Guehi ?????? Mitchell
McCarthur Jairo Schlupp
Ayew Benteke Zaha

I heard both Tomkins and Kouyate might be injured. I hope not but if so, Kelly?

Can't quite decide between Clyne and Ward either.

Have we ditched 'The Eagles' Nickname?

When I started supporting Palace (in the late 80's) the Eagles nickname was used everywhere... The crowd used to sing it at every game and it was a huge part of our identity.. I always though it was great - Somehow that seems to have gone now....?

I'm not suggesting we change our name to Crystal Palace Eagles - But is it time to bring the brand back again?

Back of the Nest Podcasts - 2021/22

Another season, another year of the Back of the Nest team putting out podcasts both previewing and reviewing our matches.

For those who haven't listened to our pods before, the Preview show tends to go up on Thursdays ahead of weekend matches with myself, Terence and Albert discussing the week's news and looking ahead to the upcoming match.

The Match Report typically comes out on Sunday/Monday and sees a revolving panel reviewing the match just gone.

For those who have listened to our pods before - I'll still be miserable and nasal :D

We have some plans for bonus content this season too and all that will be thrown up in this thread as and when. We're always happy to hear from listeners too, so feel free to chuck comments in here!

That to end, here is the first Preview show of the season for Saturday's game against Chelsea:

• Kit ratings
• New signings discussion
• Playing out from the back
• Excitement or dread?
• Season predictions (including our yearly outrageous prediction)

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Hearsay: Antoine Semenyo

Just says he has been suggested by one of our analysts.

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Health, diet, exercise etc..

How are you all? How are you living generally?

I have the great fortune (atm) of not having any quality of life limiting conditions or illnesses.

I would say my diet is fairly good and balanced without going to any dietary extremes or sacrifices. I could add a bit more veggies, and perhaps the red meat (on the barbecue) could be scaled down a bit. Sometimes we dip in and out of the new superfoods.

I smoke, a bit too mush at a packet a day. And my alcohol intake is moderate at a couple of bottles of wine a week and perhaps four or five beers.

I walk the dogs up and down gemtle slopes each day and potter around the garden.

I am leaner than I have been for many a year. Although I am older, so a bit worn down, and can feel a bit tired sometimes.

I would give myself maybe an 8/10 at 56 years old.

Match Updates: Chelsea vs Villarreal

With our match in a few days, be interesting to see tonight how good Chelsea are after the summer break. Fairly strong line up which is good for us, although of course they have massive strength in depth.

John Textor has joined, as director, investor and 4th partner

He's joined, as director, investor and 4th partner

John textor

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Pubs for: Chelsea

Can anyone let me know what pubs are away friendly near the ground or where Palace fans are heading for please? I can’t find a thread for pubs or boat trips for this game .. much appreciated

AFCON - Plan Now!

We will lose Wilf, Jordan, Jeff and Chiekou for this tournament- so we really need to get in cover for all these positions and hope Ebs gets back to full fitness by the New Year. So personally we either need additional signings by the end of August or blood 2 or 3 of our youngsters at first team level before Xmas.

Some careful planning I hope is in place by Steve and Dougie to execute a good transfer plan.

Suggestion: Corentin Tolisso

French international who is out of favour at Bayern as they look to get Sabitzer from Leipzig.

Reports say he is available for about £10m. Surely for that sort of price we should at least be interested. High calibre player, who probably has his sights set a little higher, but would be a guaranteed started for us. If West Ham are in the mix surely we can throw our hat in the ring too?

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EFL Cup 2nd Round draw...11th August 2021

The draw will be conducted live on Sky Sports following the conclusion of Leyton Orient's first round tie with Queens Park Rangers, which kicks off at 7.45pm.

The draw will once again be regionalised on a north/south basis.

Supporters can also follow the draw live on Twitter via @Carabao_Cup.


Possible opponents include:

AFC Wimbledon
Forest Green Rovers
Cheltenham Town
Cambridge United
Stevenage.............

Yet another article predicting our demise

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WTF everyone thinks we're going to get relegated and Vieira is going to get sacked in four matches.

Apparently we're all on edge???

If anything pre-season has reassured most people. Using mostly last years match day squad he's got them playing better football. Without using most of the new players that we've brought in mostly due to injuries. Really only Guehi and Gallagher have been used from the new boys. We're still capable of congesting the pitch and putting in lots of blocks and hitting on the counter as we did against Reading with 10 men.

This time we've actually backed the manager but he hasn't used most of the new boys. He's brought in good technical coaches with good reputations within the game and hasn't tried to put too many square pegs in round holes. He tried it once against Charlton with Jairo and Kelly at FB and he hasn't done it since. FDB did it every match.

We've got a whole bunch of teams we often lose to in the first 10 matches, but then a nice big stretch of winnable games. This absolute twat is going on about starting fast against Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool, Leicester and City. If we get points from them it's a bonus. All we have to do at the end of the season is get about 38 points, 40 to be on the safe side. If we get 8 or 9 points from the first 10 matches then that's probably fine as the most I'd expect is about 11 or 12 anyway from that lot.

4k Pc Monitor

So been looking at a 4k monitor

but checking the specs of my pc i get
DisplayPort resolution: 2560 x 1600 at 60Hz
DVI (dual-link) resolution: 2560 x 1600 x 32bpp at 60Hz
HDMI resolution: 4096 x 2160

Now im after some clever bbs help

The monitor i have seen runs 4k @ 3840 x 2160.

But im confused as i can run hdmi @ 4096 x 2160 but would this be 4k as i can only run DisplayPort resolution: 2560 x 1600 which i assume is 4k :confused:

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Live Com and Updates: Palace X1 vs Brentfod B 1pm kick off.

Strong line up for Palace with Benteke, Gallagher, Jes and banksy etc starting.

Who's your 3 teams to down this season?

I'm gonna go Watford, Norwich and Burnley.

Brighton also struggling unless they get a decent striker in.

Brentford the surprise package and staying up.

Lanfranc boys

Many were Palace fans. I have contacted the club to see if anything can be organised to remember them at Brentford game. I do not do social media but perhaps someone who does can “stir” interest with fanatics. I was thinking applause on 34 mins, the number of boys killed

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Fostering Children

Anyone done this?

My kids are in their mid 20s. One has gone. The other will soon.

Wife is saying she would like to foster some children as we've now got a nice seaside home, 3 bedrooms and (soon-ish) no children.

Are there any potential pitfalls? Anyone done it and saying: "never again" or has it changed your life for the better?

Boring question: How does it work? Do they try you out with one child for a fortnight?

West Ham (a) Saturday 28th August 3pm

West Ham lower tier seats blocks 119 120. Have they sold out or not been put up for sale yet?

Crystal Ball: End of Season 2021/22 Position Predictions

Another aspect of the Crystal Ball competition to get your teeth into.

Choose what position you think we will finish in the Premier League at the end of the season using the poll.

Please ensure that you record your prediction on the poll, as I will be using it as the basis for awarding points at the end of the season. Feel free to add comments but predictions must be on the poll.

5 Points to be won for a correct prediction and 2 points for 1 place out either way.

Predictions must be submitted prior to kick-off at Chelsea on Saturday.

Crystal Ball: 2021/22 First Six Kiwicumulator

Our ninth successive season in the the top division starts on Saturday.

As part of the Crystal Ball competition, we have two Kiwicumulators, one for the first six matches and another for the last six matches, which will be in April next year, with the season running through to late May.

Credit to hughff from New Zealand who created the Kiwicumulator many years ago.

Predictions must be in before KO on the first of these first six games, i.e. just before kick-off on at 3pm on Saturday 14th August.

Just Win/Draw/Loss for this: no need to predict the score, scorers or attendance. There will be individual threads for each match for that and hughff has already put up the thread for the Chelsea match.

Crystal Ball points are awarded for:
no predictions right - bonus point
3 predictions right - 1 point
4 right - 3 points
5 right - 5 points
6 right - 7 points

The matches that are the subject of this Kiwicumulator will be the first six league games thus:
Chelsea A
Brentford H
West Ham United A
Tottenham Hotspur H
Scousers A
Weed H

Crystal Ball: Chelsea away - first game of 2021-22

Here we go: Score, scorers and attendance (crowds are in, I believe).

Crystal Ball: 2021-22 Ongoing thread

Hi All and welcome to the new season of the Crystal Ball. The rules haven't changed from last season when they said this:

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Originally Posted by Eaglefoz (Post 15401605) To anyone new to this, it's all very simple. Basically each week someone will start a new thread (you don't need to wait for us to do so; feel free to start your own) in which you are asked to predict the score of the forthcoming Palace match. Simply enter your prediction on the thread - the score, the scorers, and the attendance. Scoring is as follows: 1. You get 3 points for correctly predicting the score of each match. 2. You get 1 point if you predict the correct result, but get the score wrong. 3. If you correctly predict the score, you will also get 1 point for each goalscorer you correctly predict. (To retain parity with anyone who correctly predicts a 0-0 draw, we will award a total of 4 points for that correct prediction). 4. You get 2 points if you are the closest to predicting the attendance figure. Additionally, everyone whose prediction is within 100 gets 1 point (therefore 3 points if you were closest and within 100). If you are within 101-200 you will get a bonus point. (A bonus point only counts at the end of the season in the event of a tie). Not going to be counted until all fans allowed back in (not partial crowds) 5. Cup matches this year (as last year) will be judged on the result of the match before any penalties. Therefore if you choose a draw and it goes on to penalties a draw is the result we will award points on. Please note the latest allowable time to post predictions is a minute prior to kick-off time. However, for an attendance punt or the scorers to be valid, the post must be made at least an hour before the kick off.

There is also pre-season and mid-season final position prediction threads and first and last six games KiwiCumulators that you can score points from. Furthermore, the Crystal Ball scoring team may, purely at their own discretion, award points on other occasions. For example, getting the attendance bang on to the last click of the turnstile, predicting something outrageously improbable, and honestly handing back points you didn't earn have all scored bonuses in the past.

All updates and totals will be posted on this thread. (You will have to deal with Ian Hart's feeble attempts at banter too - sorry in advance.)

Liverpool away

Anyone else sorted train tickets for this yet?

Speculation: Trevoh Chalobah

Rather weird article on HITC claiming we are interested in Chalobah (who Chelsea want to loan out not sell)…..when we already have Gallagher on loan from Chelsea.

A bit like Team Talk claiming we had to send JPM back to get a second loan from. PL club.

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Brentford (h) Saturday 21st August 3pm

Does anyone know when tickets for Brentford go on sale? Nothing on the site at all about it.

FA Cup 21/22 (150th anniversary)

Anyone go to a game yesterday?
Hadn't realised it's the 150th anniversary of the first FA Cup competition this season until I went to Chatham v Eastbourne United in the extra preliminary round yesterday.
6-2 to the home team with a hat-trick for the centre forward.
Decent ground/set up there for that level of football (South East counties league, which is maybe 5th tier of non league football?).
Smart refurbished clubhouse since I last went there with plenty of TVs for people wanting to watch the egg chasing afterwards.
Chats home to Ashford in the next preliminary round.

Betting Masters CLC 28

..BM CLC (Champions league cup) is a longer version of the monthly BBS betting masters..running from August to December ..don't delay join today..

Previous winners:
Champions league winner 06/07: Ian Hart
Champions league winner 07/08-1: Finbar
Champions league winner 07/08-2: Jim Cannons Moustache
Champions league winner 2009: Finbar
Champions league winner 2010: Jim Cannons Moustache
Champions league winner 10/11-1: kayjay
Champions league winner 10/11-2: Finbar
Champions league winner 11/12-CH8: StuNick
Champions league winner 11/12-2: CLC9: NO1FAN
Champions league winner 12/13, CLC10: Swanny32
Champions league winner 12/13, CLC11: Gooders
Champions league winner 13/14, CLC12: Little Fozzie
Champions league winner 13/14: CLC13: Stigma
Champions league winner CLC14: ardeo
Champions league winner CLC15: Funk Butter
Champions league winner CLC16: PoolKing
Champions league winner CLC17: Finbar
Champions league winner CLC18: gjohnk
Champions league winner CLC19: gjohnk
Champions league winner CLC20: StuNick
Champions league winner CLC21: gjohnk
Champions league winner CLC22: Stigma
Champions league winner CLC23: StuNick
Champions league winner CLC24: Little Fozzie
Champions league winner CLC25: StuNick
Champions league winner CLC26: Funk Butter
Champions league winner CLC27: Funk Butter

UEFA Cup winner 06/07: Gav The Hamster
UEFA Cup winner 07/08-1: Gav The Hamster
UEFA Cup winner 07/08-2: Tor
UEFA Cup winner 2009: Funk Butter
UEFA Cup winner 2010: Funk Butter
UEFA Cup winner 10/11-1: Funk Butter
UEFA Cup winner 10/11-2: StuNick
UEFA Cup winner 11/12-CH8: housey100
UEFA Cup winner 11/12-2-CLC9: Ian Hart
UEFA Cup winner 12/13, CLC10: JamTheEagle
UEFA Cup winner 12/13, CLC11: Scoopster
UEFA Cup winner 13/14, CLC12: Stigma
UEFA Cup winner 13/14, CLC13: Bellyman
UEFA Cup winner CLC14: PoolKing
UEFA Cup winner CLC15: Flat Noodle
UEFA Cup winner CLC16: Little Fozzie
UEFA Cup winner CLC17: Little Fozzie
UEFA Cup winner CLC18: €pfc
UEFA Cup winner CLC19: Funk Butter
UEFA Cup winner CLC20: Louis
UEFA Cup winner CLC21: eagles073
UEFA Cup winner CLC22: StuNick
UEFA Cup winner CLC23: Little Fozzie
UEFA Cup winner CLC24: PoolKing
UEFA Cup winner CLC25: eagles073
UEFA Cup winner CLC26: eagles073
UEFA Cup winner CLC27: Louis


Round 1 (weeks:33/34): Match 1 (starts with the Premier league on Saturday?)
Round 2 (35/36): match 2
Round 3 (37/38): match 3
Round 4 (39/40): Match 4
Round 5 (41/42): Match 5
Round 6 (43/44): Match 6

2.stage: (45/46): 6 teams
3. stage: (47/48): 3 teams

Round 1
Match 1: A1 - A4
Match 1: A2 - A3

Round 2
Match 2: A3 - A1
Match 2: A4 - A2

Round 3
Match 3: A1 - A2
Match 3: A4 - A3

Round 4
Match 4: A2 - A1
Match 4: A3 - A4

Round 5
Match 5: A1 - A3
Match 5: A2 - A4

Round 6
Match 6: A4 - A1
Match 6: A3 - A2


BM CLC27 will go from August 2021 to December 2021.

15 bets pr match (2 weeks pr match).

Two matches against each-other. Home/away rule; Away teams bets have to finish before midnight (UK time) on Saturday evening.

Minimum odds limit 1.2.

We are mainly using BM rules, that means for example that;

Scoring consists of total winnings and is inclusive of 10 point stake i.e. someone bets on a 6/4 horse and it wins their score becomes 25 (15 points profits plus the 10 pt stake) There is no score for any bets not used. Losing bets are scored as zero, not -10.
Any bet from an exchange bookie will have a 4% commission (on the winnings), if nothing else is explicitly stated in the post.

Players must quote where they're getting their prices.

After a bet has been posted up, one is not allowed to edit it..

In-play betting is not allowed. With exception for events that goes over several days; For example after 2nd round of a golf tournament has been completed or before play starts on the final day of test cricket.

The contestants will be seeded for the group draw (based on overall performances in BM competitions).

For a bet to be valid, it must be placed before the published start time.

Remember fair play. Duplicating you’re opponents bets are not allowed.

The bets must be possible to do in real life.

Insurance

Just a quick question for bbs insurance experts. In the case of someone like Grealish what sort of premiums would be required? Or any top player? Bit more than my home insurance I imagine. Just interested.

Preseason: Watford (H) 07/08 15:00 KO

Looks like this is unavailable to watch via the website in the UK. Has anyone used a VPN with the app/website before?

I feel there could be some naughty challenges in this one! COYP

McCarthy

Interesting comments from him about his fitness?

“To be fair, the last two years I have been fit for the majority of games – near enough them all. Last season I had a wee issue. Nothing serious. I think I was out for two or three weeks with it."

McCarthy made just 17 appearances for Crystal Palace last season, and a statistic has been doing the rounds showing that Callum McGregor had played more minutes last term alone than McCarthy had managed in the last five seasons combined.

Far from coming to his boyhood club to be put out to pasture though after 12 years in English football.

I always thought he was decent and a possible starter for us if he was fit, especially as we had our main tough midfielder playing n defence? Has he really been fir for 'The majority of games"?

Suggestion: Michael Obafemi

Young, very quick, wants to go in behind, can finish, Southampton seem happy to sell as he is running down his contract. £6m and worth a go?

finally got it right

diagonal stripes predicted 7 years ago:lux::lux:
COYP and lets smash it this year

Where do you find?

Your points accrued on the Palace app.

Searched but can't find!

One More Point - 2nd Book (Covering Palace, fanzines in 90s/00s, Goldberg/Jordan era)

First of all, thanks again for the support and patronage for 'Is That The Programme? - Honest Tales from a Palace fanzine editor' since it's release in summer 2020.

Was a big project with a lot of unknowns given the large gap since OMP had been an active fanzine in 2003.

The response was overwhelming and as a result the second book has been underway for the last year.

This will be covering 1996-2003 and include the 1997 promotion, Goldberg debacle, Terry Venables fleecing the club for a second time, the original admin period and the early years of Simon Jordan.

55000 words in and I'm coming up to the craziness of the Venables 6-month stint.

I'd love to hear from anyone who has memories of that crazy period. So many rumours; so many dodgy dealings (remember all those Argentines, most of whom then never showed up?) that I'm determined to get in print so that there's a truthful record of that period.

It's interesting reading the fanzines back from that period just how many times I wrote stuff but left the source anonymous around that time.

Feel free to share your memories of back then.

We made a legitimate effort to get Maradona in summer 1998 just months after making a play to get Gazza (he left Rangers for Middlesbrough in the end - would have loved him to come to Selhurst.)

It's crazy what the club went through specifically in 98-99 and I look forward to hearing any memories you have of then or any other time up to 2003.

Match Updates: Aug 6 - 12

And here we go again.

EFL begins, the Community shield and into midweek with more European qualifiers.



Sweden Women v Canada Women
Women's Olympic Football 2020 Gold Medal Match
13:00
Eurosport 5 / Eurosport Player / discovery+


AFC Bournemouth v West Brom
Championship
19:45
Sky Sports Main Event / Sky Sports Football

Jack grealish £100 million to city

Manchester City have signed England midfielder Jack Grealish from Aston Villa for a British record £100m.

Wow good player but is he worth £100 million ?

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Smashed iPhone 8+ repair

My youngest has managed to drop his iPhone 8+ and the screen is smashed… it had a cover on and it was actually his mate who dropped it…

Can anybody recommend a reliable and trustworthy repair shop other than Apple who will no doubt charge through the nose?

TIA.

Will Vieira keep Luka as captain?

I feel if Gallagher was able to feature in our first match that Luka may not start. Doesn't mean Luka can't still be captain though.

Brighton points

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Points deduction surely:)

Eddie Presland RIP

Found out this morning that Eddie passed away on Sunday aged 78, he had been suffering with cancer.

Eddie came to Palace from West Ham in January 1967 making his debut at Leeds at the end of the month. He played at left-back and missed only one game until his final first team appearance at Bury on 24th August 1968, a contentious game that included the sending off of Mark Lazarus and captain John Sewell receiving the only booking of his career that, I believe, was later rescinded. Eddie then lost his place to new signing John Loughlan in October 1968

Eddie made 65 first team appearances but continued to appear for the reserves until the end of the 1969-70 season. He was loaned to Colchester for five games in October 1969 and after Palace moved into non-league as a player and then manager.

Between 1964 and 1972 Eddie represented Essex Cricket Club in a total of 54 County and one-day games.

Our thoughts are with his wife and family.

Speculation: Brandon Pierrick on trial to Vejle

Vejle have handed trials to Crystal Palace winger Brandon Pierrick.

The 19 year-old is expected in Denmark this week for tests with Vejle with the aim to landing a contract.

Vejle's technical manager, Johan Sandahl, told Vejle County's Folkeblad, "He is a fast winger and will be training for the next period."

Rumour: Carlos Vinicius,

Probably rubbish but

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Think it started here
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Speculation: Armando Broja

Bit on Secret Scout’s Twitter thread about this 19 year old Chelsea forward - 10 in 30 last season for Vitesse. He suggests us as an option and doesn’t respond when some folks say we can’t loan him due to Gallagher. Udinese also looking at a loan.

Could be Carl’s mystery striker?

Why Palace fans should be excited for new season

This has to be one of the most insightful articles I’ve ever read I just pray to gods it all happens Great article

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Wannabe Clowns back in the prem

Oh dear

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Charlton MK 2 are back in town.

Suggestion: David Brooks

Thought I’d add this one as a suggestion given the talk Dougie was at the Bournemouth game this weekend. 24, predominantly plays right wing cutting in on his left but can play in any of the front positions and would also help fill the Eze void while he’s out.

Rumour of one year left on his contract (seems ambiguous) but if that’s the case presumably the fee would be reasonable as well. Just strikes me as a Dougie type value signing while everyone else focuses on Danjuma. Be a good addition in my book.

Scott Guyett

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Any truth to this or just another Wheddsta wannabee?

Jackie Mason RIP

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Noticed he passed on. Really enjoyed his humour back in the day

Suggested Team and Formation For: Chelsea (away)

Under 2 weeks so thought it was worth starting the thread now.

Gallagher can't play agaisnt his parent club so that rules him out of the central midfielder options.

Assuming everyone else is fit apart from the long term one's (Eze, Olise and Ferguson) and Clyne signs as expected, I would go with following starting Xl + 7 subs:

4-3-3

Guaita

Ward Guehi Andersen Mitchell

McArthur Reidewald Schlupp

Ayew Benteke Zaha (c)

Subs: Butland, Clyne, Tomkins, Kouyate, Milivojevic, Rak-Sakyi, Mateta

Not a bad team at all and hopefully we can sign a few more which will increase our options.

Suggestion: Daniel James

Just think having him on right and Wilf on left would strike fear in any team.
One quickest players in league.

He’s not gonna get more than 15-20 games / even starts with Sancho and Greenwood about.

New Assistant Osain Roberts could perhaps help him convince.