Discussion: Lies Damned Lies and Stats

jeudi 1 septembre 2016

As a bit of fun at the beginning of the Transfer window my son started keeping records of all players we were linked with from at least 2 mildly credible sources (so not twitter but in the papers although we appreciate it may be much the same thing these days). Here is the list and what actually happened. He says he was on holiday for 5 days and so may have missed a couple then but he thinks he has most of them. Of the 85 players linked to Palace:
- 6 actually moved to us, about 7%
- 38 moved clubs (inc. ones to Palace), about 44.7%

Percentages worth thinking about before getting too excited about a rumour.

1. Lewis Dunk (Brighton) (defender) (again: 08/06, 13/06, 17/06) – Remains at Brighton
2. Bradley Dack (Gillingham) (midfielder) (again 07/06) – Remains at Gillingham
3. Max Power (Wigan) (midfielder) (found a link from 12/05) – Remains at Wigan
4. 23/05 (and before) Nathan Redmond (Norwich) (winger) – Signed for Southampton.
5. 23/05 Paul Dummett (Newcastle) (defender) (again: 31/08) – Remains at Newcastle
6. 23/05 Cheick Tiote (Newcastle) (midfielder) – Remains at Newcastle
7. 24/05 Davide Santon (Inter Milan) (full back) (again: 02/06, 26/06, 06/07, 07/07, 13/07. 14/07) – Remains at Inter
8. 24/05 Demba Ba (Shanghai Shenhua) (striker) – Remains at Shanghai Shenhua
9. 24/05 Christian Benteke (Liverpool) (striker) (again: 08/06, 20/06, 24/06, 26/06, 30/06, 09/08, 10/08, 11/08) – it is fair to say that there was far more than this. – Signed!
10. 25/05 Saido Berahino (WBA) (striker) (again: 18/06, 24/06, 17/07) – Remains at WBA
11. 25/05 Islam Slimani (Sporting Lisbon) (striker) – signed for Leicester
12. 25/05 Sandro Ramirez (Barcelona) (striker) – signed by Malaga CF
13. 26/05 Ryan Mason (Tottenham) (midfielder) (again: 01/06, 24/08) – Signed for Hull
14. 27/05 Michael Carrick (Manchester U) (midfielder) – renewed contract with Man U
15. 27/05 Asmir Begovic (Chelsea) (goalkeeper) – Remains at Chelsea
16. 27/05 Mikael Ndjoli (Millwall) (striker) – Signed for Bournemouth 07/07
17. 28/05 Steven Caulker (QPR) (defender) – Remains at QPR
18. 29/05 Manolo Gabbiadini (Napoli) (striker) – Remains at Napoli
19. 30/05 Alex Oxlade Chamberlain (Arsenal) (winger) – Remains at Arsenal
20. 31/05 Calum Chambers (loan) (Arsenal) (defender) – Loaned for Middlesbrough
21. 31/05 Mario Balotelli (Liverpool) (striker) (again: 24/08, 25/08) – Loaned to Nice
22. 31/05 Ross McCormack (Fulham) (striker) – signed for Aston Villa
23. 31/05 Nick Pope (Charlton) (goalkeeper) – signed for Burnley
24. 01/06 Nabil Bentaleb (Tottenham) (midfielder) – loaned to Schalke
25. 01/06 Tim Krul (Newcastle) (goalkeeper) – loaned to Ajax (after signing deal with Newcastle)
26. 04/06 Dominic Iorfa (Wolves) (defender) (again: 15/06, 22/06, 26/06) – Remains at Wolves
27. 04/06 Kortney Hause (Wolves) (defender) – Remains at Wolves
28. 05/06 Andros Townsend (Newcastle) (winger) (again: 07/06, 24/06, 26/06, 28/06) – Signed!
29. 08/06 Alex Song (Barcelona) (midfielder) – signed for Rubin Kazan
30. 08/06 Khouma El Hadji Babacar (Fiorentina) (striker) (again 10/06, 13/06, 07/07, 22/08) – Remains at Foirentina
31. 10/06 Gregoire Defrel (Sassuolo) (striker) – Remained at Sassuolo
32. 13/06 Cedric Bakambu (Villareal) (striker) – Remained at Villareal
33. 15/06 Marko Arnautovic (Stoke) (forward) – Renewed contract with Stoke
34. 15/06 Ibrahim Kargbo Jr – SIGNED? – Not confirmed by club*
35. 15/06 Diafra Sakho (West Ham) (striker) (again: 20/07, 21/07) – Remains at West Ham
36. 15/06 James Tomkins (West Ham) (defender) (again: 28/06, 02/07, 03/07) – Signed!
37. 16/06 Fernando Llorente (Sevilla) (striker) – signed for Swansea
38. 16/06 Jonjo Shelvey (Newcastle) (midfielder) – Remained at Newcastle
39. 16/06 Romain Thomas (Angers) (defender) (again: 19/06) – Remained at Anger
40. 16/06 Emil Forsberg (RB Leipzig) (midfielder) – Remained at RB Leipzig
41. 20/06 Eyong Enoh (Standard Liege) (defender) – Remained at Standard Liege
42. 20/06 Aaron Tshibola (Reading) (midfielder) – Signed for Aston Villa 10/07
43. 21/06 Stefano Sturaro (Juventus) (midfielder) (again: 23/06) – Remained at Juventus
44. 21/06 Hakim Ziyech (Twente) (striker) (again: 22/06, 26/06, 07/08) – Signed for Ajax
45. 22/06 Martin Braithwaite (Toulouse) (forward) – Remains at Toulouse
46. 25/06 Steve Mandanda (Marseille) (goalkeeper) (again 27/06, 29/06, 30/06) – Signed!
47. 27/06 Fanendo Adi (Portland Timbers) (striker) – Remains at Portland Timbers
48. 27/06 Jeff Hendrik (Derby County) (midfielder) – Signed by Burnley
49. 28/06 Michy Batshuayi (Marseille) (forward) – signed for Chelsea
50. 28/06 Jerome Onguene (Sochaux) (defender) – Remains at FC Sochaux
51. 30/06 Wilfried Bony (Man City) (striker) (again: 09/08) – Loaned for Stoke
52. 03/07 Robin Van Persie (Fenerbahce) (striker) - Remain at Fenerbahce
53. 03/07 Carl Jenkinson (Arsenal) (defender) – Remains at Arsenal
54. 03/07 Josip Ilicic (Fiorentina) (midfielder) (again: 15/07) – Remained at Fiorentina
55. 04/07 Tomas Rincon (Genoa) (midfielder) (again: 30/08, 31/08) – Remains at Genoa
56. 04/07 Idrissa Gueye (Aston Villa) (midfielder) – signed by Everton
57. 06/07 Vasilis Torosidis (Roma)(defender) – signed by Bologna
58. 06/07 Roberto Pereyra (Juventus) (midfielder) – Signed by Watford
59. 07/07 Mario Lemina (Juventus) (midfielder) – Remains at Juventus
60. 07/07 Franco Vazquez (Palermo) (midfielder) – Signed for Sevilla
61. 15/07 Sebastien Haller (FC Utrecht) (striker) – Remained at Utrecht
62. 15/07 Yakou Meite (PSG) (winger) – Signed for Reading
63. 16/07 Moussa Sissoko (Newcastle) (midfielder) (again: 17/07, 26/08) – Signed for Spurs
64. 21/07 Moussa Sow (Al-Ahli) (striker) – Loaned to Fenerbahce
65. 22/07 Moussa Marega (Porto)(striker) – Loaned to Vitoria S.C.
66. 25/07 Dale Stephens (Brighton) (midfielder) (again: 09/08) – Remains at Brighton
67. 05/08 Youssouf Mulumbu (Norwich) (midfielder) – Remained at Norwich
68. 06/08 Bastian Schweinsteiger (Man U) (midfielder) – Remained at Man U
69. 09/08 Hal Robson-Kanu (unattached) (forward) – Signed for WBA
70. 10/08 Oumar Niasse (Everton) (striker) – Remains at Everton
71. 11/08 Daniel Opare (Augsburg) (defender) – Remains at Augsburg
72. 11/08 Emmanuel Agyemang-Badu (Udinese) (midfielder) – Remained at Udinese
73. 11/08 Chris Gunter (Reading) (defender) – Remained at Reading
74. 11/08 Ashley Young (Manchester United) (winger) (again: 17/08) – Remains at Man U
75. 17/08 Oliver Burke (Nottingham Forest) (winger) – Signed for RB Leipzig
76. 17/08 Loic Remy (Chelsea) (striker) (again: 18/08, 24/08, 25/08 – 30/08) – signed on loan
77. 22/08 William Vainqueur (Roma) (midfielder) – loaned to Marseille
78. 24/08 Daryl Janmaat (Newcastle) (defender) – signed for Watford
79. 25/08 Lucas Lima (Santos) (attacking midfielder) – Remains at Santos
80. 26/08 Achraf Lazaar (Palermo) (defender) – Signed for Newcastle
81. 26/08 Mamadou Sakho (loan) (Liverpool) (defender) – Remains at Liverpool
82. 28/08 James McCarthy (Everton) (midfielder) (again: 30/08, 31/08) – Remained at Everton
83. 30/08 Jack Wilshere (loan) (Arsenal) (midfielder) (again: 31/08) – Loaned to Bournemouth
84. 30/08 Abdul Majeed Waris (Lorient) (striker) – Remained at Lorient
85. 31/08 Ademola Lookman (Charlton) (forward) – Remained at Charlton

* Ibrahim Kargbo Jr – It was confirmed by the players father that he’d signed for the club, but I couldn’t find anything else confirming it. I took his confirmation with a little bit of salt as the father is a footballer himself, who has twice been banned for match fixing.


Linked outs:
1. Lee (due to falling out with Pardew) (Burnley)
2. Abebayor (end of contract)
3. Mutch (to Norwich/someone in Championship)
4. Mariappa (end of contract)
5. Hangaland (end of contract)
6. Speroni (end of contract)
7. Delaney (end of contract)
8. Mouranne Chamack (end of contract)
9. Paddy McCarthy (end of contract)
10. Dwight Gayle (to Newcastle, Aston Villa, Fulham)
11. Scott Dann (Everton, Arsenal)
12. Sulley Kaikai (loan to a Championship side)
13. Joe Ledley (Burnley)
14. Yannick Bolaise (West Ham, Everton)
15. Wayne Hennessey (Everton)
16. Zeki Fryers (loan: Blackburn)
17. Keshi Anderson (loan to League 1)
18. Alex McCarthy (Hull, Southampton)
19. Jake Gray (loan)
20. Mile Jedinack (Aston Villa)
21. Wilfried Zaha (Watford, Spurs)
22. Bakary Sako (Wolves, Nottingham Forest)
23. Connor Wickham (West Brom)

Signed:
1. Julian Speroni – New contract
2. Damien Delaney – New contract
3. Andros Townsend – 01/07, £13m (Newcastle)
4. Steve Mandanda – 01/07, £1.4m (Marseille)
5. James Tomkins – 05/07, £10m (West Ham)
6. Christian Benteke – 20/07, £27m (Liverpool)
7. Loic Remy – 30/08, season long loan (Chelsea)
Left:
1. Abebayor – End of contract
2. Mariappa – End of contract – now at Watford
3. Hangaland – End of contract – now retired
4. Paddy McCarthy – End of contract – now retired
5. Marouane Chamakh – End of contract
6. Dwight Gayle – Sold to Newcastle, £10m
7. Jake Gray – Luton Town, free
8. Alex McCarthy – Sold to Southampton, reported £4m
9. Jerome Binnon-Williams – Peterborough, free
10. Yannick Bolaise – Everton, around £30m
11. Mile Jedinack – Aston Villa, £4m
12. Freddie Ladapo – Oldham, loan
13. Luke Croll – Exeter City, loan
14. Keshi Anderson – Bolton, loan
15. Jonny Williams – Ipswich, loan
16. Sullay Kaikai – Brentford, loan
17. Ryan Inniss – Southend, loan
18. Hirem Boateng – Bristol Rovers, loan


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