PL ace probed by police for racist abuse

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Palace in Prague

Have to be in Prague on Thursday and just wondering if any Palace fan group there who will be out watching the Everton match?

John Pilger RIP

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Suggested Team and Formation For: Everton (h) (FA Cup) 04/01/23

Henderson
Clyne - Andersen - Guehi - Mitchell
Richards
Ozoh - Ahamada
Schlupp - Mateta - Franca

Whitworth, Tomkins, Adaramola, Grehan, Lerma, Eze, Ebiowei, Edouard, Ola-Adebomi

Want Oalace to give the cup a good go this year, however with Olise pulling up in the last game, definitely rest him regardless of his status. Similarly with Eze coming back from his injury, but keep him on the bench in case we need him.

Keep the same back 5 so we’re remaining solid in defence, bring in Franca, Ahamada and Ozoh. Theres’s some youth and experience on the bench in case the game goes either way.

Jordan Ayew, an appreciation

Been much maligned on here for years but he’s genuinely one of our most important players and he is definitely our most industrious player. Nobody in our side has his work rate and this season he has stepped it up with goal interactions in a side that hasn’t done very much up front. I’m really pleased for him to finally be getting the plaudits he deserves over the last season or two. He is a very important part of our team.

We are going to miss him in January, thankfully we don’t have a month packed with games

Those no longer able to be with us

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Beautiful thing to do

January Betting Masters 242

BM – 242....All welcome, show the BBS who the best punter is; don't delay join today!

Previous winners:

1: el mico
2: three-way 0-0-0 final draw !!!(Plugster, late mail and odds against)
3: Finbar
4: Grim Reaper
5: EagleSE24
6: LLCOOLSTEVE
7: Stigma
8: Stigma
9: Stigma
10: Tor
11: Finbar
12: Finbar
13: old git
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Overall best betting in 2004: Stigma
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14. Reps AJ
15. bradley eagle
16. Tor
17. LLCOOLSTEVE
18. stevejfh
19. Tor
20. Finbar
21. Drunk eagle
22. Ozeagle
23. LLCOOLSTEVE
24. Wildcat Army
25. LLCOOLSTEVE
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Overall best better in 2005: stevejfh
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26: si1965
27: Ozeagle
28: srs9jps
29. si1965
30: hakers
31: Tor (WC '06)
32: srs9jps
33: NO1FAN
34: Drunk eagle
35: Stigma
36: Stigma
37: DedBallSpeshlst
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Overall best better in 2006: Flat Noodle
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38: LLCOOLSTEVE
39: Finbar
40: richdeniro
41: Stigma
Champions league winner 06/07: Ian Hart
UEFA Cup winner 06/07: Gav The Hamster
42: Finbar
43: Funk Butter
44: PoolKing
45: Funk Butter
46: Drunk Eagle
47: StuNick
48: Stigma
49: StuNick
Champions league winner 07/08-1: Finbar
UEFA Cup winner 07/08-1: Gav The Hamster
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Overall best better in 2007: Finbar
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50: GodstoneEagle
51: Funk Butter
52: Finbar
53: Funk Butter
54: LLCOOLSTEVE
55: Al From Bromley
56: Stigma
2008 Olympics: pauldrulez
57: pauldrulez
58: NO1FAN
59: Al From Bromley
60: Drunk Eagle
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Overall best better in 2008: StuNick
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61: StuNick
62: ardeo
63: Stigma
64: LLCOOLSTEVE
65: Finbar
66: No1Fan
67: Al From Bromley
68: Al From Bromley
69: Funk Butter
70: DedBallSpeshlst
71: Kayjay
72: Gooders
73: gjohnk
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Overall best better in 2009: Funk Butter
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74: Finbar
75: StuNick
76: DedBallSpeshlst
77: Swanny32
78: Funk Butter
79: Funk Butter
80: gjohnk
81: Finbar
82: MynamenisnotMax
83: No1Fan
84: gjohnk
85: Little Fozzie
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World Cup 2010 winner: old git
Overall best better in 2010: GodstoneEagle
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86: Flat Noodle
87: Finbar
88: GodstoneEagle
89: Flat Noodle
90: mynameisnotmax
91: Louis
92: Funk Butter
93: gjohnk
94: DedBallSpeshlst
95: Stigma
96: cantspell
97: No1Fan
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2011 Order of Merit Winner: Finbar
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March 100th edition knockout special: Little Fozzie
Champions league winner 1st half 2011: Finbar
Champions league winner 2nd half 2011: StuNick
Jan - May UEFA Cup winner 2011: StuNick
Aug - Dec UEFA Cup winner 2011: Housey100

98: 3 Beers at HT
99: StuNick
100: cantspell
101: Funk Butter
102: Finbar
103: Swanny32
104: Funk Butter
105: Louis
106: srs9jps
107: Funk Butter
108: LLCOOLSTEVE
109: Funk Butter
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2012 Order of Merit Winner: Funk Butter
August - Dec 2012 Champions League winner: Swanny32
August - Dec 2012 UEFA Cup winner: JamTheEagle
Jan - May 2012 Champions League winner: No1Fan
Jan - May 2012 UEFA Cup winner: Ian Hart
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110: Louis
111: Louis
112: Gooders
113: Finbar
114: Little Fozzie
115: StuNick
116: Flat Noodle
117: Louis
118: evvo111
119: srs9jps
120: StuNick
121: LLCOOLSTEVE
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2013 Order of Merit Winner: Louis

Jan - May 2013 Champions League Winner: Gooders
Jan - May 2013 UEFA Cup winner: Scoopster
Aug - Dec 2013 Champions League Winner: Little Fozzie
Aug - Dec 2013 UEFA Cup Winner: Stigma
========================
122: No1Fan
123: PoolKing
124: LLCOOLSTEVE
125: 3 Beers at HT
126: Louis
127: Finbar
128: LLCOOLSTEVE
129: 3 Beers at HT
130: Finbar
131: Funk Butter
132: Stig
133: Louis

2014 Order of Merit winner: Finbar
Jan - May 2014 Champions League Winner: Stigma
Jan - May 2014 UEFA Cup winner: Bellyman
Aug - Dec 2014 Champions League Winner: Ardeo
Aug - Dec 2014 UEFA Cup Winner: PoolKing
Winter Olympics 2014 Winner: srs9jps

134: Gooders
135: Finbar
136: 3 Beers at HT
137: Funk Butter
138: €pfc
139: Gooders
140: Funk Butter
141: Louis
142: evvo111
143: pauldrulez
144: Louis
145: evvo111

2015 Order of Merit winner: Finbar
Jan - May 2015 Champions League Winner: Funk Butter
Jan - May 2015 UEFA Cup winner: Flat Noodle
Aug - Dec 2015 Champions League Winner: PoolKing
Aug - Dec 2015 UEFA Cup Winner: Little Fozzie
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146: Louis
147: PoolKing
148: Louis
149: evvo111
150: LLCOOLSTEVE
151: StuNick
152: 3 Beers at HT
153: evvo111
154: Finbar
155: 3 Beers at HT
156: Finbar
157: StuNick
2016 Order of Merit winner: StuNick
Jan - May 2016 Champions League Winner: Finbar
Jan - May 2016 UEFA Cup winner: Little Fozzie
Euros 2016 special winner: 3 Beers at HT
2016 Olympics Winner: Funk Butter
Aug - Dec 2016 Champions League Winner: gjohnk
Aug - Dec 2016 UEFA Cup Winner: €pfc

158: 3 Beers at HT
159: Stigma
160: Finbar
161: 3 Beers at HT
162: StuNick
163: Louis
164: Louis
165: PoolKing
166: Louis
167: Finbar
168: Kayjay
169: StuNick
2017 Order of Merit winner: StuNick
Jan - May 2017 Champions League Winner: gjohnk
Jan - May 2017 UEFA Cup winner: Funk Butter
Aug - Dec 2017 Champions League Winner: StuNick
Aug - Dec 2017 UEFA Cup Winner: Louis

170: Louis
171: Finbar
172: Louis
173: Stigma
174: Finbar
175: Louis
176: Stigma
177: StuNick
178: Funk Butter
179: Stigma
180: Finbar
181: Funk Butter
2018 Order of Merit winner: Stigma
Jan - May 2018 Champions League Winner: gjohnk
Jan - May 2018 UEFA Cup winner: eagles073
World Cup BM 2018: 3 Beers at HT
Aug - Dec 2018 Champions League Winner: Stigma
Aug - Dec 2018 UEFA Cup Winner: StuNick

182: Stigma
183: PoolKing
184: StuNick
185: Louis
186: Funk Butter
187: Funk Butter
188: Louis
189: aj4england
190: StuNick
191: Finbar
192: PoolKing
193: Funk Butter
2019 Order of Merit winner: PoolKing
Jan - May 2019 Champions League Winner: StuNick
Jan - May 2019 UEFA Cup winner: Little Fozzie
Aug - Dec 2019 Champions League Winner: Little Fozzie
Aug - Dec 2019 UEFA Cup Winner: PoolKing

194: Kayjay
195: Finbar
196: Finbar
197: 3 Beers at HT
198: Finbar
199: StuNick
200: kayjay
201: Finbar
202: Louis
203: Funk Butter
204: 3 Beers at HT
205: Funk Butter
Order of Merit winner: Funk Butter
Jan - Jul 2020 Champions League Winner: StuNick
Jan - Jul 2020 UEFA Cup winner: eagles073
Sep - Dec 2020 Champions League Winner: Funk Butter
Sep - Dec 2020 UEFA Cup Winner: eagles073
206: Stigma
207: 3 Beers at HT
208: PoolKing
209: PoolKing
210: Stigma
211: Stigma
212: 3 Beers at HT
213: Stigma
214: Funk Butter
215: Stigma
216: Stigma
217: Funk Butter
2021 Order of Merit winner: Stigma
Jan - Jul 2021 Champions League Winner: Funk Butter
Jan - Jul 2021 UEFA Cup winner: Louis
Euros Special 2020 Winner: 3 Beers at HT
2020 Summer Olympics Winner: 3 Beers at HT
Aug - Dec 2021 Champions League Winner: Stigma
Aug - Dec 2021 UEFA Cup Winner: eagles073
218: Stigma
219: Stigma
220: Funk Butter
221: PoolKing
222: PoolKing
223: Stigma
224: Funk Butter
225: 3 Beers at HT
226: Stigma
227: PoolKing
228: PoolKing
229: Gooders
2022 Order of Merit winner: Stigma
Jan – May 2022 Champions League winner: gjohnk
Jan – May 2022 UEFA Cup winner: Little Fozzie
BM Winter Olympics 2022: Stigma
Aug – Nov 2022 Champions League winner: Gooders
Aug – Nov 2022 UEFA Cup winner: Stigma
BM World Cup 2022 winner: Stigma
230: PoolKing
231: NO1FAN
232: Gooders
233: 3 Beers at HT
234: Gooders
235: NO1FAN
236: Gooders
237: Stigma
238: Gooders
239: Stigma
240: Gooders
241:
Jan – May 2023 Champions League winner: Gooders
Jan – May 2023 UEFA Cup winner: eagles073
Aug – Dec 2023 Champions League winner: Little Fozzie
Aug – Dec 2023 UEFA Cup winner: eagles073
242:
243:
244:


Rules are as follows

1 Every player has 200 points to bet with in the first round.

2 Each separate bet made is 10 points meaning players have 20 bets during the first 20 days. Maximum bet on a single market is 10 points, same rule applies for identical multis (basically no duplicate bets though you can do a team A, team B double on one bet and then add team C for a treble in another bet)

3 In the second round the 3* finalists all start by carrying forward 25% of their score from the first round added to the 150 points that can bet used in the second round. The person who qualifies for the final with the most points also gets an additional 10pt bet. (*if the number of participants gets to 7 or more, then a 4th finalist place will be added and then one more for every 5 players on top of that).

4 Betting Masters, first group stages runs from 0000 on the first of the month (standard UK time) to 2359hrs on the 20th of the month. Then the top four* posters come together in a mini league from there on until the end of the month.
Final bet settlement must occur before 2359 on the last day of the month.

5 Naturally the winner is the person with the highest score at the end of the last day of the month.

6 Scoring consists of total winnings and is inclusive of 10 point stake i.e. someone bets on a 6/4 horse and it wins their score becomes 25 (15 points profits plus the 10 pt stake) There is no score for any bets not used. Losing bets are scored as zero, not -10.
Any bet from an exchange bookie will have a 4% commission (on the winnings), if nothing else is explicitly stated in the post.

7 Players must quote where they're getting their prices.

8 Singles and upwards accepted.

9 For boxed multis and bets such as Yankees, each separate bet within the bet counts as separate and will cost 10pts per bet. e.g. ten trebles from five selections will use up 100 points.

10. E/W bets are counted as two bets in the masters, which means 10 points x 2

11. For tracking purposes, players are requested to put the outcome of their bets on the post for all events other than European soccer/tennis.

12. Where possible players are requested to put down a running total of their bets in their posts, although I'll also try and produce rolling league tables where possible.

13. After a bet has been posted up, one is not allowed to edit it..

14. The bets must be possible to do in real life, meaning for example that if you got a multi, all the odds have to come from 1 bookmaker. You can’t shop around for the highest odds and put them together. "Special promotion" type bets are not allowed though BOG (Best Odds Guaranteed) are.

15. Bets must be placed at odds of 1/10 (or 1.1 in decimal) or higher

16. Any Draw No Bet bets where the result is a push will always have the bet settled as void, never 10pts. Any asian handicap bet where the result is a push (in full) will have the bet settled as void. Any asian handicap where half of the stake is returned will be marked down as 5pts with the remainder of the Asian handicap settled as a win or a loss (this is applicable for asian handicaps such as 2.25 or -2, -2.5 etc)

17. In the event that a player is not sure if their bet will finish in time, before midnight on the 20th or midnight for qualifying midnight on the final day of the month for the final, they can make a provisional bet or bets which then become actual bets only if their original selection(s) finishes at 12.01am or after.

Crystal Palace Rugby League

On one of ITV's 'Big Match Revisited' shows from October 1980 Jim Rosenthal says something like this during the news slot:-
"And Rugby League's progression down south took another step with Crystal Palace confirming talks"

Search engines not coming up with anything - anyone got any recollections?

Live Com and Updates: Crystal Palace V Brentford KO 15:00

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New Year's Resolutions

Roll Up Roll Up

Nostrils is going to concentrate more on his washing machine cycle.

Me? I reckon I am going to more or less wing it through the year like I have been doing for the greatest part of my life to date.

Anyone going to the game tomorrow from Devon?

I’ll probably get myself kick out for this but we are about to leave to spend a few days in Devon for the New Year with some friends and I can face to drive there today and then drive back for the match tomorrow then back down after!

I know it’s the longest of longshots ever but just wondered if anyone travels from Devon way to the march tomorrow and has a spare seat?

Happy to pay for fuel etc. I have top banter too!

Really feel I should be there 🙌🏽

Crystal Ball: vs. Brentford - Sat. 30th Dec.

Morning All and happy odd bit between time.

Please provide the score, scorers and attendance for tomorrow's Brentford game at Costa Del Selhurst.

Wimbledon F.C. or Belfast F.C.?

The definition of an 'Away Game' ?

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AirPods found at Chelsea

Did you lose your airpods at Chelsea when we scored?

If so, DM, where in the lower you were at the time and let's get them back to you.

Gary O'Neil & Derry,Wolves is a long way from both their houses.. make the call Steve

Now please ...

Suggested Team and Formation For: Brentford (home)

-------------------------Henderson---------------------------------
-----------Richards-----Andersen(c)----------Guehi-------------
Ayew----------------Lerma----------Hughes--------------Schlupp
----------------------Olise------------Eze--------------------
---------------------------Franca------------------------

Let's try to inject a bit more pace into the side. Franca on the shoulder. Cooper's 3-4-3 formation. Proper footballers. Hope Edouard can be on the bench. Proactive subs after 60 mins. COYP.

New boiler advice

Hi All,

Been quoted £2900 for a brand new boiler fitted. Does that sound reasonable. Boiler is a Worcester.

Little Hollie RIP 😢

Little Hollie sadly gained her Eagle Wings on Saturday 9th Dec.
For her mum Clare Davies to find her precious little girl had passed away, let alone just 2wks before Christmas, I’m sure was devastating.

I have personally known Hollie & her mum Clare for many years. We have travelled up together to football on many an occasion. They are both Palace mad, and many times it was Hollie that made her mum go & take her.

Hollie & Clare loved each other’s company dearly, Hollie was also such fun to be with.

Hollie has not only been taken from her heartbroken Mum & family, but also her baby sister, who she absolutely adored.

Hollie touched the lives of everyone that was lucky enough to meet her, and leaves a lot of heavy hearts.

I would like to ask as many of you as possible to share the link below, with all your families& friends & your social media.

I thank each and everyone of you, at this very difficult and sad time.


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Rumour: Bright Osayi-Samuel

Apparently we're favourites to sign him:

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BBS Essential Maintenance - Downtime from 10:30pm tonight for 30-60 minutes

The BBS will be unavailable from 10:30pm tonight (UK time) for 30-60 minutes while we carry out an essential upgrade. This is the first in a series of steps that we'll be carrying out over the next couple of weeks to resolve various issues and to bring the BBS up to modern software standards.

Apologies for the short notice, and thank you for your patience.

Press Conference Live: Chelsea

Roy Hodgson conducted his pre-Chelsea press conference immediately following his post-match commitments after the 1-1 draw against Brighton & Hove Albion last week.

Ahead of the Eagles' trip to face Chelsea at Stamford Bridge on Wednesday (27th, 19:30 GMT kick-off), read on below to find out what the manager had to say about the game, early team news, and several key figures in his squad...

ON TEAM NEWS AHEAD OF CHELSEA…

“I don’t know [at this stage].

"[Sam] Johnstone I'm sure won't be [available]. [Odsonne] Edouard would have to surprise me – it doesn't look like that’s the situation at the moment.

“But to be fair, in those areas at the moment, we're doing well enough. The boys have come in and played in place of them and are doing well enough.

"I don't think there would be any reason for me to bemoan the fact they [Johnstone and Edouard] are not there, because if they were there, that might mean that [Dean] Henderson and [Jean-Philippe] Mateta didn't play. At the moment, those two fully deserve to play.

“Having said that, I'd be very delighted to get them back – the sooner the better. But I don't see that.

“[Cheick] Doucouré, of course, absolutely not. There's no chance of getting [Rob] Holding back or [Jesurun] Rak-Sakyi back, but our squad is looking a little bit more like it should do now anyway, because [with] another three or four days of training Eberechi Eze will be closer, if you like, to his true form, and then by the time we play Brentford even more so.”

ON THE THREAT POSED BY CHELSEA…

“When you look at their squad and their players, I think most teams will look at it and think this is going to be a very, very tough game because they’ve got some very, very good players.

“The thing about form is it could just be that some of the players are finding their feet at the club and playing as well as their reputations would suggest. Football, at any level, is not rocket science. If you are a very, very rich club and you have the ability to bring in players who actually cost a lot of money, that maybe other clubs can't afford, sooner or later there's a chance those players will start performing in the way that everyone expects them to perform.

“That's basically what we will have to expect. I don't think we'll go to Chelsea with them being frightened out their wits with the team that we can come with to play against them, but I also believe that we'll go there, and we'll give them as good a game as we've given the last three teams we've played, all of which are teams who are European teams. One's a European champion, the other one's a European champion a year ago, and Brighton are playing in European football after a very good season.

“There'll be other teams that we'll play in the league going forward that maybe don't have European ambitions and maybe haven't spent the sort of money that some of these other clubs have spent.”

ON CHELSEA’S OWN INJURY TROUBLES THIS SEASON…

“The big thing with injury lists is what you have behind it, how much you've been able to strengthen the squad so that [you know] who's going to go in in place of the player that has to come out.

“But all managers, I'm sure, would like to field what they think is their best team, so when there are injuries, that is problematic for them. I have every sympathy with coaches in that area.

“It's a part and parcel of the game and that's why of course the top teams, who are playing European football, need these very, very big squads. Sometimes you'll need players who would walk into many, many other teams on your bench because you play so many games.”

ON MICHAEL OLISE…

“Obviously every club needs that [magic]. We've been blessed with Wilf [Zaha] through the years, but now we have Olise, and also we have Eberechi Eze. We have two players who can do that job and who get the crowd buzzing.

“I think that the crowd were very good tonight [against Brighton]. They were very much behind the team. I think they'll recognise that there's some good moments ahead for this Football Club.”

ON MARC GUÉHI, A FORMER CHELSEA PLAYER…

“He's a very, very good player. I don’t how Chelsea would feel about seeing him play now and having let him go, you’d have to ask them that question, but we like him very much. We think he's outstanding player.

"We believe that with guys like him and [Joachim] Andersen, and guys like Eze and Olise, and with people like Edouard and Mateta and what they're doing this year, there's enough threat in our team to get us where we would like to be at the end of the season.”

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Yellow card crazy?

8 yellows in today's Wolves v Chelsea game and we've had lots lately... is something new going on?

iPhone owners- help please

Morning all!

I found an iPhone whilst walking the dog and would like to do my good deed of the day and reunite it to it's owner. It's Christmas after all :). The phone is locked and I have tried the Siri call mum trick. Unfortunately it has no SIM card. I have posted it on the local Facebook group. Is there anything else I can do? Can I somehow get it to connect to my WiFi etc? I have never owned an iPhone so there may be another trick I am not aware of.

Twitter: Wesley França

Wonder if there's any truth to this?
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Asylum seekers returning home for Christmas

Ahh,bless them,I hope they have a nice time.

Crystal Ball: Chelsea away

The usual quick turn around sees another game on the way. Score, scorers, attendance please.
1-1
Olise, Gallagher
40090

Politics Forum (not very) Secret Santa thread

You have £20 of virtual money to buy someone who frequents this forum a christmas present.

I’ll start with Cockneyrebel, who I have got a pack of revolutionary playing cards.



Happy Christmas everyone

FA and EFL cup replays to be scrapped

BBC sport reporting that FA cup and EFL cup replays could be scrapped for the 2024-25 season partly due to the scheduling of Premier league games. FA cup replays might be scrapped from the third round onwards as well as the two-legged EFL cup semi-finals. Scheduling of Premier league and the expansion of European games would leave only six midweeks free in the season.
Personally I would like to see games settled on penalties particularly if a lower league side has held on for a draw. Replays always favour the higher league sides. On the other hand lower league sides will lose potential revenue from a replay. Any other thoughts?

Merry Christmas

Wishing all my friends and enemigos a very happy festive season.

May your hearts and souls be as full as your stomachs and wine glasses.

And we need a bump of the Christmas Rows thread. The snideness of The Vicar's brother-in.law is the one single thing that the entire BBS can agree on.

Heathrow on Christmas Day morning

Any bright ideas on how to get to Heathrow airport from New Cross on Christmas Day morning? Business trip so receipt needed. Added complication is trip could be cancelled with a days notice.

Suggested Team and Formation For: Chelsea (away)

-------------------------------Henderson------------------------------------------
Clyne-------Richards--------Anderson--------Guehi--------------Mitchell
-------Ayew-----------Lerma----------Hughes---------Schlupp
-------------------------------Mateta-------------------------------------------


Subs:
Olise
Franca
Eze
Edouard
Ebiowei
Ola-Adebomi

Chelsea are a good team. They've spent billions, so it's going to be tough. Just one change from the team that managed an excellent point against Brighton. Let's just sit back, stay narrow and hope to shut them out. COYP.

Prague shooting

How am I the first to post this thread up?

Crystal Ball: Mid-Season Prediction. What will be our final position?

This is the mid-season prediction of what will be our final position. If you get it spot on, you will get 5 points in the Crystal Ball competition. If you are one place out, in either direction, you will get 2 points.

Because it is a mid-season prediction, there is a mid-season deadline. You must have made your prediction before kick-off of our 20th game, at home to Brentford on 20th.

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VERY IMPORTANT NOTE: If you want to make comments on this thread, that is welcomed. However, for your prediction to count towards the Crystal Ball you must actually cast your vote in the poll, because that is the means we use to check it at the end of the season. But by all means, post it in the thread too if you want

Poll to follow

Como name Osian Roberts as caretaker manager

A bit random...

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Player time arrival to ground

Hi guys apologies to ask does anyone know what time do the players arrive at the ground before the game ?

Fantastic (or otherwise!) Music Documentaries

I watched the History of Disco three-parter on the Beeb. ******* brilliant. Really got down to the roots of what disco was about, beyond the 'badge' - i.e. name given by the media, being a contraction of Discothequé!

The story of Fairytale of New York is pretty special too.

I think this deserves it's own as I find myself enjoying these much more than I enjoy general TV/etc.

Amy was pretty decent, but ...

Match Ticket Information: Arsenal (away) Sat 20 January 2024

On sale now to away S/T holders

Paper tickets only with posted or collect options available

Singing Section for this game is located in the top right of Block 21.

Adults £30
65+ £17.25
U16 £11
17-24 £21.50

Press Conference Live: Pre-Brighton Wednesday 1:30pm

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Suggestion: Matty cash

Some rumours Emery may let go Jan, I wouldn't mind him right back.

Wilf .... would we take him back?

It's started!

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Darts world championship 2023

No thread?

Price looked decent last night.

I went to the opening night. My first time at the darts and what a great night. Really well organised, no queues for food or beer and a great atmosphere. Hoping Micheal Smith can retain the title.

I didn't realise Adrian lewis had packed it in. Really sorry to read about his struggles.

Iceland Erupts

I've been fascinated by the situation in Iceland with the possible eruption near the town of Grindavik and last night it broke through. Luckily it hadn't reached the town so far but is spreading.

Ian Walsh

All the best to the man. He is fighting cancer. I am probably the last to find out but couldn’t (at least quickly) see anything on it. That goal! Come on Ian let’s get to work.

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Live Com and Updates: West Ham U21s (h), PL2, 18/12/23, 19.00 (Live on PalaceTV)

40 minutes til kick off.

Whitworth
Imray - Sheridan - Grehan - Watson
Rodney - Devenny
Umeh - Wells-Morrison - Mathurin
Ola-Adebomi

Izquierdo, Francis, Raymond, Mustapha, Marsh

Crystal Ball: vs. Seaweed Albion

Right, the big'un.

Please provide Result, scorers and attendance ahead of Thursday Night's game with Brighton.

Club World Cup 2025

From DPA:

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Football governing body FIFA has confirmed eight European clubs that have already secured a spot for the 2025 Club World Cup, which will feature a new format. Chelsea, Real Madrid and Manchester City qualified as the latest Champions League winners, a fourth to be confirmed at the end of this season, FIFA said on Sunday. The other five clubs - Bayern Munich, Paris Saint-Germain, Inter Milan, Benfica and Porto - secured a spot thanks to their coefficient raking of European ruling body UEFA.

This is a nonsense isn't it? Teams that have actually won the square root of **** all in European competition qualifying for the "Club World Cup". :rolleyes:

To be played over a few weeks in June/July?

When are players supposed to get a bit of rest and recuperation? Is this going to delay the start of the season?

Will there be renewed pressure to reduce the size of elite divisions in all the major leagues?

Can't wait for Porto v Al Ittihad on Amazon Prime :rolleyes:

Sheffield United (h) tickets on sale from Monday 18th December

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Match is scheduled for Tuesday 30th Jan 8pm but I don't think we can take that as 100% confirmed because of FA Cup possibilities. Tickets are going on sale nevertheless.

Player Ratings And Reviews: Manchester City V Crystal Palace MOTM

Poll to follow

Suggested Team and Formation For: Brighton

Assuming Ward, Edouard, Hughes and Lerma all out.

Henderson

Clyne Joa Marc Mitchell

Richards Schlupp

Eze

Olise Mateta Ayew

Maybe harsh on Ozoh, but use him and Franca from the bench.

RIP Question of Sport

BBC announces the programme has ceased production. Since dropping the three much loved front three two years ago the audience has dropped to barely a million from the low of four million under Sue Barker. Who knew that this would happen? Anyone with half a brain. Question Time anyone?

Live Com and Updates: Manchester City V Crystal Palace KO 15:00

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Press Conference Live: Pre-Man City Friday 1pm

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Match Updates: Dec 15 - 20

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MLS to introduce new anti-time wasting rules

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The off-field treatment rule requires any player who remains down with a suspected injury for at least 15 seconds to be removed from the field by a medical crew and receive treatment on the sideline for a minimum of two minutes. Exceptions to the two-minute requirement will be made when the injuries come from fouls that earn yellow or red cards. Over a season and a half of trials in MLS Next Pro -- the two-year-old developmental league -- the league reported that stoppages dropped from an average of six per match to 1.22. The timed substitution rule will require players to exit the playing field within 10 seconds when being removed from the game. If they fail to leave the field in the allotted time, their replacement will have to wait an additional minute and enter at the next stoppage. (The rule does not apply for goalkeepers or injury subs.) During the 2023 MLS Next Pro season, only 10 substitutions received the one-minute penalty out of more than 3,200 substitutions, according to the league.

Junior Christmas party

Wondering if anyone on here has taken their kids to the Junior Christmas party in previous years and any opinions on if it’s worth it etc?

Arteta Unpunished!

So Arteta's rant at the Newcastle game has gone.... UNPUNISHED.

This is the reason...

"In the written reasons for the charge not being proven, it was revealed Arteta claimed that: "The word 'disgrace'...'has a very similar spelling and pronunciation to the Spanish 'desgracia'.

"The Spanish word has connotations of misfortune, tragedy or bad luck rather than the connotations of the English equivalent which suggest contempt, dishonour or disrespect.

"While the English meaning may lead to interpretations of abuse or insult, this was not the intended meaning."

What kind of BS is this? Are they all gullible as f*ck?
How did that actual BS excuse pass?!

free seats on planes… but only if you’re obese

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Seriously, this world has gone insane.Bowing down to ridiculous “tiktok influencer “morons and the like. Rewarding obesity with free extra seats when they buy 1 seat while charging others for having a bag 500g over the limit.

They’re even kicking customers who have paid for their tickets off the plane to accommodate these fat bastards

I’m sure the rest of the flying public will love it when these airlines jack up their prices because they can only fit 5 passengers onboard

Apple & Prime (etc…)… TV Native v Sky

We are about to replace one of our TVs, and wanted opinions on the quality of streaming native to the TV vs using the Apps on Sky Q? We have average broadband (but will be upgrading to fibre to doorstep soon) and streaming apps through the Sky box is dire at high usage times in our village at weekends (especially on Apple, less so on Prime).

Would we likely get a better performance using the TV native app rather than going …

Apple to Wi fi to Sky Q main, Sky wi fi to second Q box?

We are looking at either a Sony or Samsung TV.

Palace v. Watford at Selhurst Park

Advance notice:

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"Following a spectacular day at Selhurst Park last month, in which a club-record 4,442 tickets were sold, Crystal Palace Women will return to SE25 in March 2024 when they host Watford – and you can now get tickets to be part of another spectacular day!"

Sunday 24th March 2024 with a 2pm Kick-Off

Ticket Prices:

Adult £13 or £6.50 if booked online before the 23rd February

Season Ticket Holders/Members £5 or £2.50 if booked online before the 23rd February

U16s £2 or £1 if booked online before the 23rd February

2x Adult/2x Children Families £25 using the code CPFCWFAMILY

On the gate prices will be:

Adult - £19
ST and Members - £9
U16s - £5

Watford fans will be located in the Main Stand - Block B.

Live Com and Updates: Reading - Away

Sunday 17th December
1pm
Select Car Leasing Stadium

Reading currently sit 10th of 12 with 4 points in the last five games.
Palace can go top if they win and other results go their way.

Other Fixtures:

Durham v. Southampton - 7th v. 3rd
Blackburn v. Lewes - 6th v. 11th
Sunderland v. Birmingham - 2nd v. 5th
Sheffield United v. Charlton - 8th v. 1st
Watford v. London City - 12th v. 9th

FA Cup 4th Round

vs. Blackburn Rovers

Palace will face Blackburn on Sunday 14th January 2023, with kick-off time, ticketing and potential broadcast details to be announced in due course.

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Within the Match Centre on the Club Website it does list the ground as being Bromley rather than Sutton United. I have double checked and Sutton are due to be at home on the 13th (Saturday) so I am not sure why it would be changed.

Discussion: Broja (Jan 2024)

Gallagher may be out of reach, but wouldn’t be surprised if his teammate Armando Broja becomes available instead for same financial reasons. Actually, I’ve seen rumours that he is available. Nkunku is due back and they want a new striker and to continue with Jackson as a long term project. And so this one could be realistic. Would people take him for £35m? I’d be happy with Ekitike as well but if we can’t get that over the line then I would love Broja. Good age, runs the channels, mobile, can hold it up, has PL experience and can score. Massive upgrade on Edouard imho. What are other people’s thoughts?

Rumour: Lopetegui

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According to Teamtalk Lopetegui is a target to replace Roy, the article goes on to say that Forest's Cooper is also a target. I'd take either one at this moment. Roy needs to go ASAP!

David Oldfield - is he at Palace

A mate who is a Weymouth fan thinks that their ex-manager, David Oldfield, has ended up working at Palace.

Does anyone know if this is true? And if so, in what capacity?

I can't find any info on this....

John Rambo RIP

One of the entourage of John's that lead to the nicknames and stage names I believe. Long time mate and minder of John Lydon. He walked out on stage at Brixton with them for instance. Think he met John Lydon after Lydons stint on im a celebrity too. Always there. Or was. Terrible time for JR. Wife now his mate passed on.

That's Reid, Jordan, Nils, Joe, MM, gone.


Anyway, RIP John Rambo Stevens

Live Com and Updates: U21s vs Middlesborough, 11/12/23, 19:00 KO, U21 PL Cup (Live on Palace TV+)

Time for Franca?

Palace to be fined

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Palace are now going to be fined fore receibing over 6 yelloew cards, which we can't appeal.

Apart from the ref himself who deserved a red card for being a biased C*NT, I think we should send a letter to Howard Webb and demand an explanation for Madley's "performance" and hopefully an apology.

Chelsea and Burnley Home tickets

Despite the website still saying that tickets for Chelsea and Burnley at home are on sale from today, December 11, the box office have confirmed that they "..will not be on sale this week."
This is due to the PL not having confirmed dates and KO times yet. Makes sense but frustrating that we can't seem to keep up with the internal admin.

Liverpool Away

Our game at Liverpool is on the Grand National weekend. It also falls on the weekend after the Europa League QF.

Obviously the game will move to Sunday if Liverpool win the L16 game in the Europa League, but does anyone know whether Liverpool and Everton games always move on Grand National weekend?

Just thinking about whether to get tickets for the racing - but obviously no good unless the game moves to Sunday.

Woe is me

Ignoring the issues of squad and management and ownership for a few seconds, I wonder if another reason for restlessness within the fanbase is down to disillusionment with the league, and football in general?

As the title suggests, it probably comes across as feeling sorry for oneself, but it can be difficult not to when every week you come away from a game and a match week feeling like the cards are rigged. I'm sure every team feels unlucky, but I do think we get more than our fair share of ill fortune.

For right or wrong, we probably have the 'nicest team' and manager in the league in terms of not engaging in the dark arts/haranguing officials etc, but that doesn't ever play in our favour.

We (and other smaller teams, I concede) are 100% refereed differently to other teams. Many times you just have to imagine situations reversed: if Endo had made that tackle on Hughes in the build-up to a Liverpool penalty, would VAR have interfered? No chance. Would Alexander Arnold have received either of the yellows Ayew got yesterday? No chance. Would Eze have been awarded the penalty Son got today? No chance; he'd probably receive a caution for diving instead.

When referees are sent to the monitor, they basically always reverse the decision - referees have stuck with their original call on a tiny number of occasions - it's happened on less than 0.4% of occasions or something like that. Yet it's happened to us twice. Even punditry on decisions for or against us seems different that if it's Liverpool or Arsenal or whoever being discussed.

When Newcastle or Spurs have a few injuries at once, there's hours of discussion about it and sympathy about their plight. When we have an injury crisis - which relatively is more impactful as our squad is smaller and the players involved are seemingly always our best and most crucial - it's a footnote at best.

We seem to disproportionately face teams when they are in good form, rather than in a rut and/or affected by injuries - for instance Newcastle this week. We also always seem to play teams when they welcome back key players from injury - Allison yesterday, for instance, who won them the game.

Again, for right or wrong, we seem to be one of the only Premier League teams who try to keep within our financial means, but it doesn't benefit us, as everyone else seems to get away with pushing the boundaries (I even include Everton as the points deduction will be irrelevant this season, whereas last season it would have sent them down).

One of the contributing factors is that we're just not fashionable I guess, and I always feel like a lot of people look down their noses at us, and feel we don't truly belong here, as a traditional big club like Leeds or Sheffield Wednesday or whoever should have our place. Even in our most successful periods in the last decade, and/or when we've been an exciting team to watch, it's always felt like we're not spoken about on TV or radio or podcasts, and when we are talked about, it's rather brief and begrudging.

Perhaps I'm wrong, and I've got a complex, but it does feel like our face doesn't fit really.

How can I be sure my Season Ticket goes to Palace Fans?

Yesterday my parents couldn’t go to the game so sold their season tickets for the game back to the club. However, these were subsequently snapped up by two plastic Liverpool fans one of whom was perfectly behaved all game and the other recorded it all from start to finish and appeared to celebrate when Liverpool scored their winner.

I think the way in which you can sell your season ticket on a game by game basis is a really good move from the club as it saves ST holders money whilst ensuring the ground is full.

However, I find it both puzzling and unfair that these tickets don’t go directly to Palace fans but instead can be snapped up by anyone.

Surely any season tickets for games that are sold back to the club should automatically be offered to members who pay their subscription and support the right team?

Liverpool fans in Palace end

There was loads of Liverpool fans in Whitehorse Lane end yesterday celebrating the goals and videoing game yet the stewards did nothing. Was this the same in other ends? Is there anything club can do to stop this happening as seems to happen every time we play them?

Ray Wright RIP

I am really sad to let people know that Ray Wright the ex chairman of the Crystal Palace Supporters Trust died last Tuesday. He had been a fan of Palace since the 1960s and latterly had a ST in the Holmesdale and also regularly attended away matches. He joined the Trust in 2011 and was Chair when he had to resign in September 2022 due to a diagnosis of bowel cancer.

He was relentlessly pro Palace fans and it was mainly due to his efforts and professional approach that there were regular meetings with the Club to discuss and put forward fans concerns and issues.

Palace was in his blood and even after diagnosis he managed to return and attend more games and he would have been a familiar face to many. He will be much missed by all who know him.

Are we losing it 3-0?

Not that it matters much given what went on later...

But we used four out of only three sub windows today and none of them were a concussion sub.

Surely this means the result will be changed to 3-0 for Liverpool?

Will you be in your seat today?

Raining ....
Shit team effort ...
Roy ... who I love .... playing Royball thanks to half a decent team to pick from ..
It being horrible Liverpool scum and Klopp the ****! ....
I won't as pre Christmas stuff to do ... which I would normally put off .... not today though!

You?

R.I.P Ryan O'Neal

Hollywood star died today age 82 . The weepy Love Story , Paper Moon and A Bridge to Far, to name a few.

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Match Updates: Dec 8 - 14

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Losing It

Wasn't sure where to post this but I think it relates to tickets as much as anything else.
There are a number of issues which are currently make me seriously question my loyalty to our club after 53 years of support.
1. I pay for a season ticket. If I can't make a game I have to offer it for resale. For the Bournemouth game my seat was empty in the LH because they couldn't sell tickets in the AW with reduced visibility and pretty much no amenities.
2. Kick off times are a right pain in the arse
3. Train strikes. This Sat trains aren't stopping at Selhurst to avoid overcrowding. What will happen at Norwood Junction then? Do the club care enough to talk to rail operators or to communicate with us?
4. The catering in the LH is awful.
5. I signed up as an academy member during Covid to help the club out. Where's all the promised benefits?
6. The refusal to give a 61 year old a plastic card s/t (that's me by the way)
7. The awful football
8. The crappy Roehampton University adverts on the tv screens that mean you can see bugger all on the actual screen
9. The truly awful app and website if you're trying to book tickets, find loyalty points, or in fact see anything useful.
10. The general sense that a club that we felt that we part owned, or at least belonged to, has now become a money grabbing behemoth that will discard us in an instant if it meant more short-term revenue

I know it's a personal and at times bizarre rant but all these things combined are making me question whether I really want to go through all this crap next season.
So I thought I'd see if there are any others who feel the same

Best place to buy a Christmas tree in Tooting/Colliers Wood

Can anyone recommend a good spot to pick up a tree down in Tooting? This is my first Christmas here and need some guidance!

Player Ratings And Reviews: Bournemouth (h) 2-0 Loss

Was reluctant to post this thread, not sure it’s even needed tbh, but we can’t break tradition.

A lot of discussions have focused around Roy and the board etc so we can have a thread to discuss how bad the players were today. :D

Poll to come… if anyone can think of someone to vote for…

Do we need a new club captain (Marc Guehi)?

All talk about the owners and Hodgson so far. What about the other leadership role, the skipper on the pitch? Surely the captain should be Guehi to freshen things up? I hope if a new manager comes in the first thing he does is give Guehi the armband.

Palace is Gay

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Fantastic video just posted on the CPFC Youtube showing Chris Richards and some women's team members teaching our youth that being LGBTQ+ is A-OK. In the words of Richards in the video "If we start now and show that it's acceptable to be whoever you want to be...".

I'm fully supportive of indoct- brainwa- err, educating young minds on all the possibilities that a person can be and to be accepting of this. I'd like to reach out to the following marginalized groups to also contact CPFC so that they can be included in the next school tour:

- Brexit supporters
- Trump supporters
- Drag Queens
- Left-handed people
- Atheists
- Heavy body modifiers
- Morbidly obese and loving it
- Smokers
etc.
I want to ensure that we have all possible iterations of lifestyles implanted into our youth so that we can truly be an enlightened group once they reach the age where they can't so easily be manipulated.

(now that you've read that and are fully prepared to call me an -ism or -igot, explain to me why this is necessary to teach school children? Isn't "Accept everyone no matter who they are" enough? as we had in primary school)

Pubs and Parking Tips for: Man City

Where's the best place to park?
Ideally 20 min walk or nearer

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RIP Denny Laine

Underrated guitarist with Moody Blues and Wings, passed away this morning.

Press Conference Live: vs. AFC Bournemouth (H) Tuesday 1:30pm

Press Conference live at 1:30pm this afternoon

FSA Awards - HLTCO wins fan media award

Massive congratulation to Dan, HLTCO, who won the Fan Media Award at last night's Football Supporters Association Awards.

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The Origin of Crystal Palace FC Volume 8

The new volume of Palace's history, The Origin of Crystal Palace FC, Volume 8, is now available in the club shop and on Ebay.

If your family are asking you what you would like for Christmas, this is a present which will assuredly keep you amused on Christmas day.

Volume 8 covers the history of Crystal Palace FC for the period 1920 to 1921, the excitement surrounding the club's first season in the Football League, and the chase for promotion to the Second Division.

• How did Palace react to the sudden announcement by the Football League to create a Third Division?
• Why did Palace stir up the fury of Belfast-based club Distillery?
• What was the connection between the Brocks Fireworks Company and Crystal Palace FC?
• Why did the FA Cup Final not return to Crystal Palace Park after the First World War?
• Why did Crystal Palace FC not return to Crystal Palace Park after the First World War?
• How did FIFA come to be a French organisation not a British one?
• What could Palace do to persuade the Brighton Railway to allow them to remain at the Nest?
• How did Palace deal with repeated serious pitch-invasions at the Nest?
• Who accused Palace of having broken-glass fragments in their pitch?
• Who came-up with the idea that Palace might relocate to Selhurst Park?

As always, the book is ram-jam full of insight and previously unpublished revelations regarding the history of the club: drama, comedy, tragedy. There is never a dull moment.

Gorgeously illustrated throughout with material provided by collectors and fans, and meticulously researched entirely from original source information, readers of this book will share Palace’s early adventures in the Football League.

For those who think the police are tougher on right wing protesters

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Crystal Ball: Bournemouth (H)

Quick turnaround with this fixture after yesterday's match. Please provide the Score/Scorers/Attendance for Wednesday's match against the South Coast Cherries.

Player Ratings And Reviews: West Ham (a) 1-1 Draw

Poll to come.

Fa cup 3rd round vs

It’s Everton (H) of course no cup run this year then….

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Christmas Schmalz

As the world gets more cynical(or is it just me) it fees like the amount of reacle being pured by the tv, movies and advertising industry is getting ever more sickly.> I mean a whole sky channel devoted to Christmas movies. To this end there now seem to me a gazillion of these that seem to have only just ben created. Reunion romcoms, rediscoveries of self, Father Christmas's behind every door. So far as I can tell barely an original idea in sight. Nearly all from the US as well. Thats all bad enough but Sky promos about their movies for the festive period are driving me round the bend "is this just the best bit about.." No! Shut up about it will you. As to the advertisers if I ever hear about that bloody carrot again or Coca Cola telling us that Christmas is coming as if they ******* invented it. And Deceembers only just begun!

Serious question though. Are we all receptive to thing like this at the moment or are the media hopelessly out of touch

A league game half time 2 hour break!!

Probably not worth a thread. However something I've never seen or heard of before tonight.

Sydney fc are playing Perth Glory. At half time Sydney were 2-0 up. There was a massive cloud burst fir over 90 mins. They've come back on and resumed 2 hours after the first half.


Apparently it's happened here once before. The 2nd half resumed at 10.30pm after a kick off time of 7.45pm. Still a couple of thousand in the ground.

FA Cup 3rd Round Draw - Sunday 3rd December 12:55pm Live on ITV

The draw will be live on ITV during build-up coverage of the Eastleigh v Reading tie. Many of us will be at West Ham at the time which is a bit inconvenient. We are ball number 13 (obviously).

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Who do you want? Who will we get?

Crystal Ball: West Ham (a)

The start of a busy month.

Score, scorers and attendance please.

Press Conference Live: vs. West Ham United (A)

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