Plastic Grass and The Backlash

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Who of us has ventured into this - either full on or in part?

Did you partake in a Covid project that you have since regretted?

We have a few strips of the stuff at my place, but nothing more.

Suggestion: Carlos Borges

I'd bloody love to nick him off the Spammers right at the last minute.

The kid is going to be a star.

Reportedly £14m with a £40m Buy-Back clause.

Discussion: Free Agent List

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Ainsley Maitland-Niles has obviously been discussed elsewhere but, is there anyone else on that list who could be picked up with no fee and would excite you?

Unfortunately for me it looks like the only ones I would really consider throwing a Trial too etc. are for positions that we already have covered.

Speculation: Who will our next signing be?

Assuming Franca gets over the line, who's the next incoming?

A few we've been linked with here.

Restoring a formatted hard drive

Over the weekend I intended to format a USB drive but in my haste I reformatted my external hard drive instead :wallbash: This drive has 10,000+ records, years of photos etc. I installed Disk Drill which analysed the drive, found all of the files but when I clicked 'Recover' it asked me for £85 to install the pro version as the trial would only recover 500mb (i need about 400gb).

Is there another way of restoring? Or do I need to stump up £85 and write off as a cost of being a muppet

Can you be offended if you are white?

So I have been watching a programme on BBC I player call Dreaming whilst black. Some of the scenes in it play on very heavily on white people being stupid and stereotypical, for example a woman who is a judge at a competition to a mainly black audience says "I am a judge but I am sure that wont scare you as most of you scallywags have been in front of a judge before" It then shot straight to the main character who of course had a look of shock on his face. I am sure the bloke who wrote this will fall back on things like this happened to me, and I dont doubt in the past it would have. But I just find all of it a bit obvious and a little insulting.
so the question is can I and should I be offended?

Health and Safety Tree Survey

In our garden we have 12 mature trees all of which are on or near the borders of neighbouring properties.
I understand our responsibility to maintain these trees in good order and the potential liability if we don't.
I need to get a report on the health of the trees which would satisfy any legal and/or insurance issues but don't really know where to start apart from random internet checking.
Does anyone have any experience or suggestions?

August Betting Masters 237

BM - 237 ...All welcome, show the BBS who the best punter is; don't delay join today!

Previous winners:

1: el mico
2: three-way 0-0-0 final draw !!!(Plugster, late mail and odds against)
3: Finbar
4: Grim Reaper
5: EagleSE24
6: LLCOOLSTEVE
7: Stigma
8: Stigma
9: Stigma
10: Tor
11: Finbar
12: Finbar
13: old git
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Overall best betting in 2004: Stigma
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14. Reps AJ
15. bradley eagle
16. Tor
17. LLCOOLSTEVE
18. stevejfh
19. Tor
20. Finbar
21. Drunk eagle
22. Ozeagle
23. LLCOOLSTEVE
24. Wildcat Army
25. LLCOOLSTEVE
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Overall best better in 2005: stevejfh
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26: si1965
27: Ozeagle
28: srs9jps
29. si1965
30: hakers
31: Tor (WC '06)
32: srs9jps
33: NO1FAN
34: Drunk eagle
35: Stigma
36: Stigma
37: DedBallSpeshlst
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Overall best better in 2006: Flat Noodle
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38: LLCOOLSTEVE
39: Finbar
40: richdeniro
41: Stigma
Champions league winner 06/07: Ian Hart
UEFA Cup winner 06/07: Gav The Hamster
42: Finbar
43: Funk Butter
44: PoolKing
45: Funk Butter
46: Drunk Eagle
47: StuNick
48: Stigma
49: StuNick
Champions league winner 07/08-1: Finbar
UEFA Cup winner 07/08-1: Gav The Hamster
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Overall best better in 2007: Finbar
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50: GodstoneEagle
51: Funk Butter
52: Finbar
53: Funk Butter
54: LLCOOLSTEVE
55: Al From Bromley
56: Stigma
2008 Olympics: pauldrulez
57: pauldrulez
58: NO1FAN
59: Al From Bromley
60: Drunk Eagle
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Overall best better in 2008: StuNick
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61: StuNick
62: ardeo
63: Stigma
64: LLCOOLSTEVE
65: Finbar
66: No1Fan
67: Al From Bromley
68: Al From Bromley
69: Funk Butter
70: DedBallSpeshlst
71: Kayjay
72: Gooders
73: gjohnk
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Overall best better in 2009: Funk Butter
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74: Finbar
75: StuNick
76: DedBallSpeshlst
77: Swanny32
78: Funk Butter
79: Funk Butter
80: gjohnk
81: Finbar
82: MynamenisnotMax
83: No1Fan
84: gjohnk
85: Little Fozzie
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World Cup 2010 winner: old git
Overall best better in 2010: GodstoneEagle
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86: Flat Noodle
87: Finbar
88: GodstoneEagle
89: Flat Noodle
90: mynameisnotmax
91: Louis
92: Funk Butter
93: gjohnk
94: DedBallSpeshlst
95: Stigma
96: cantspell
97: No1Fan
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2011 Order of Merit Winner: Finbar
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March 100th edition knockout special: Little Fozzie
Champions league winner 1st half 2011: Finbar
Champions league winner 2nd half 2011: StuNick
Jan - May UEFA Cup winner 2011: StuNick
Aug - Dec UEFA Cup winner 2011: Housey100

98: 3 Beers at HT
99: StuNick
100: cantspell
101: Funk Butter
102: Finbar
103: Swanny32
104: Funk Butter
105: Louis
106: srs9jps
107: Funk Butter
108: LLCOOLSTEVE
109: Funk Butter
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2012 Order of Merit Winner: Funk Butter
August - Dec 2012 Champions League winner: Swanny32
August - Dec 2012 UEFA Cup winner: JamTheEagle
Jan - May 2012 Champions League winner: No1Fan
Jan - May 2012 UEFA Cup winner: Ian Hart
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110: Louis
111: Louis
112: Gooders
113: Finbar
114: Little Fozzie
115: StuNick
116: Flat Noodle
117: Louis
118: evvo111
119: srs9jps
120: StuNick
121: LLCOOLSTEVE
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2013 Order of Merit Winner: Louis

Jan - May 2013 Champions League Winner: Gooders
Jan - May 2013 UEFA Cup winner: Scoopster
Aug - Dec 2013 Champions League Winner: Little Fozzie
Aug - Dec 2013 UEFA Cup Winner: Stigma
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122: No1Fan
123: PoolKing
124: LLCOOLSTEVE
125: 3 Beers at HT
126: Louis
127: Finbar
128: LLCOOLSTEVE
129: 3 Beers at HT
130: Finbar
131: Funk Butter
132: Stig
133: Louis

2014 Order of Merit winner: Finbar
Jan - May 2014 Champions League Winner: Stigma
Jan - May 2014 UEFA Cup winner: Bellyman
Aug - Dec 2014 Champions League Winner: Ardeo
Aug - Dec 2014 UEFA Cup Winner: PoolKing
Winter Olympics 2014 Winner: srs9jps

134: Gooders
135: Finbar
136: 3 Beers at HT
137: Funk Butter
138: €pfc
139: Gooders
140: Funk Butter
141: Louis
142: evvo111
143: pauldrulez
144: Louis
145: evvo111

2015 Order of Merit winner: Finbar
Jan - May 2015 Champions League Winner: Funk Butter
Jan - May 2015 UEFA Cup winner: Flat Noodle
Aug - Dec 2015 Champions League Winner: PoolKing
Aug - Dec 2015 UEFA Cup Winner: Little Fozzie
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146: Louis
147: PoolKing
148: Louis
149: evvo111
150: LLCOOLSTEVE
151: StuNick
152: 3 Beers at HT
153: evvo111
154: Finbar
155: 3 Beers at HT
156: Finbar
157: StuNick
2016 Order of Merit winner: StuNick
Jan - May 2016 Champions League Winner: Finbar
Jan - May 2016 UEFA Cup winner: Little Fozzie
Euros 2016 special winner: 3 Beers at HT
2016 Olympics Winner: Funk Butter
Aug - Dec 2016 Champions League Winner: gjohnk
Aug - Dec 2016 UEFA Cup Winner: €pfc

158: 3 Beers at HT
159: Stigma
160: Finbar
161: 3 Beers at HT
162: StuNick
163: Louis
164: Louis
165: PoolKing
166: Louis
167: Finbar
168: Kayjay
169: StuNick
2017 Order of Merit winner: StuNick
Jan - May 2017 Champions League Winner: gjohnk
Jan - May 2017 UEFA Cup winner: Funk Butter
Aug - Dec 2017 Champions League Winner: StuNick
Aug - Dec 2017 UEFA Cup Winner: Louis

170: Louis
171: Finbar
172: Louis
173: Stigma
174: Finbar
175: Louis
176: Stigma
177: StuNick
178: Funk Butter
179: Stigma
180: Finbar
181: Funk Butter
2018 Order of Merit winner: Stigma
Jan - May 2018 Champions League Winner: gjohnk
Jan - May 2018 UEFA Cup winner: eagles073
World Cup BM 2018: 3 Beers at HT
Aug - Dec 2018 Champions League Winner: Stigma
Aug - Dec 2018 UEFA Cup Winner: StuNick

182: Stigma
183: PoolKing
184: StuNick
185: Louis
186: Funk Butter
187: Funk Butter
188: Louis
189: aj4england
190: StuNick
191: Finbar
192: PoolKing
193: Funk Butter
2019 Order of Merit winner: PoolKing
Jan - May 2019 Champions League Winner: StuNick
Jan - May 2019 UEFA Cup winner: Little Fozzie
Aug - Dec 2019 Champions League Winner: Little Fozzie
Aug - Dec 2019 UEFA Cup Winner: PoolKing

194: Kayjay
195: Finbar
196: Finbar
197: 3 Beers at HT
198: Finbar
199: StuNick
200: kayjay
201: Finbar
202: Louis
203: Funk Butter
204: 3 Beers at HT
205: Funk Butter
Order of Merit winner: Funk Butter
Jan - Jul 2020 Champions League Winner: StuNick
Jan - Jul 2020 UEFA Cup winner: eagles073
Sep - Dec 2020 Champions League Winner: Funk Butter
Sep - Dec 2020 UEFA Cup Winner: eagles073
206: Stigma
207: 3 Beers at HT
208: PoolKing
209: PoolKing
210: Stigma
211: Stigma
212: 3 Beers at HT
213: Stigma
214: Funk Butter
215: Stigma
216: Stigma
217: Funk Butter
2021 Order of Merit winner: Stigma
Jan - Jul 2021 Champions League Winner: Funk Butter
Jan - Jul 2021 UEFA Cup winner: Louis
Euros Special 2020 Winner: 3 Beers at HT
2020 Summer Olympics Winner: 3 Beers at HT
Aug - Dec 2021 Champions League Winner: Stigma
Aug - Dec 2021 UEFA Cup Winner: eagles073
218: Stigma
219: Stigma
220: Funk Butter
221: PoolKing
222: PoolKing
223: Stigma
224: Funk Butter
225: 3 Beers at HT
226: Stigma
227: PoolKing
228: PoolKing
229: Gooders
2022 Order of Merit winner: Stigma
Jan – May 2022 Champions League winner: gjohnk
Jan – May 2022 UEFA Cup winner: Little Fozzie
BM Winter Olympics 2022: Stigma
Aug – Nov 2022 Champions League winner: Gooders
Aug – Nov 2022 UEFA Cup winner: Stigma
BM World Cup 2022 winner: Stigma
230: PoolKing
231: NO1FAN
232: Gooders
233: 3 Beers at HT
234: Gooders
235: NO1FAN
236:
237:
238:
239:
240:
Jan – May 2023 Champions League winner: Gooders
Jan – May 2023 UEFA Cup winner: eagles073

Rules are as follows

1 Every player has 200 points to bet with in the first round.

2 Each separate bet made is 10 points meaning players have 20 bets during the first 20 days. Maximum bet on a single market is 10 points, same rule applies for identical multis (basically no duplicate bets though you can do a team A, team B double on one bet and then add team C for a treble in another bet)

3 In the second round the 3* finalists all start by carrying forward 25% of their score from the first round added to the 150 points that can bet used in the second round. The person who qualifies for the final with the most points also gets an additional 10pt bet. (*if the number of participants gets to 7 or more, then a 4th finalist place will be added and then one more for every 5 players on top of that).

4 Betting Masters, first group stages runs from 0000 on the first of the month (standard UK time) to 2359hrs on the 20th of the month. Then the top four* posters come together in a mini league from there on until the end of the month.
Final bet settlement must occur before 2359 on the last day of the month.

5 Naturally the winner is the person with the highest score at the end of the last day of the month.

6 Scoring consists of total winnings and is inclusive of 10 point stake i.e. someone bets on a 6/4 horse and it wins their score becomes 25 (15 points profits plus the 10 pt stake) There is no score for any bets not used. Losing bets are scored as zero, not -10.
Any bet from an exchange bookie will have a 4% commission (on the winnings), if nothing else is explicitly stated in the post.

7 Players must quote where they're getting their prices.

8 Singles and upwards accepted.

9 For boxed multis and bets such as Yankees, each separate bet within the bet counts as separate and will cost 10pts per bet. e.g. ten trebles from five selections will use up 100 points.

10. E/W bets are counted as two bets in the masters, which means 10 points x 2

11. For tracking purposes, players are requested to put the outcome of their bets on the post for all events other than European soccer/tennis.

12. Where possible players are requested to put down a running total of their bets in their posts, although I'll also try and produce rolling league tables where possible.

13. After a bet has been posted up, one is not allowed to edit it..

14. The bets must be possible to do in real life, meaning for example that if you got a multi, all the odds have to come from 1 bookmaker. You can’t shop around for the highest odds and put them together. "Special promotion" type bets are not allowed though BOG (Best Odds Guaranteed) are.

15. Bets must be placed at odds of 1/10 (or 1.1 in decimal) or higher

16. Any Draw No Bet bets where the result is a push will always have the bet settled as void, never 10pts. Any asian handicap bet where the result is a push (in full) will have the bet settled as void. Any asian handicap where half of the stake is returned will be marked down as 5pts with the remainder of the Asian handicap settled as a win or a loss (this is applicable for asian handicaps such as 2.25 or -2, -2.5 etc)

17. In the event that a player is not sure if their bet will finish in time, before midnight on the 20th or midnight for qualifying midnight on the final day of the month for the final, they can make a provisional bet or bets which then become actual bets only if their original selection(s) finishes at 12.01am or after.

Live Com and Updates: Sevilla

COYP - last one before returning home.

Matheus França

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So where will he play then? Wouldnt be surprised if for first game hes out on RW considering Olise's injury....... It seems that his best position though is CAM/ Attacking mid..... were we to sell Eze in the next 12 months I'd imagine hed slot in well there too.....

Twitter: Scott Banks to Blackpool

According to Nixon, sounds like permanent transfer likely to happen.

Reading between the lines sounds like fee between £500k to £1m. Probably on the lower end on that scale.

This USA preseason and its 5000 club videos?

Zzzz

Selhurst Park by Wooden Grounds.

I luckily managed to win this smashing wooden impression of Selhurst Park in a competition recently.

The artwork is created by Wooden Grounds and they are online.

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Chelsea fined 10m for FFP

Not much details of this fine dating back to previous owner spread over years.

Dosent seem to be much details or be a big fine.

Juventus banned from Europe. Chelsea fined.

To view the link you have to Register or Login Obviously Chelsea couldn't be banned from Europe as they didn't qualify. :p Having said that, they self-reported the breach from the Abrahamovich era so I feel some sympathy. Not for Juve - good to see Fiorentina taking their place.

Javen Palmer 'Released' Interview

Didn't see any threads on this so thought I would post. A very insightful interview from a Palace youth named Javen Palmer in the interview series called 'RELEASED'.

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RIP Randy Meisner

Voice of the Eagles and Poco, became a somewhat troubled man in later life, but had a talent that you couldn’t ignore.

Off to duet with Glenn Frey again.

Chemtrails

Just wondering if we have any believers of this “theory” on here :)

Please enlighten us with your craziness

Pre-season: U21s vs Bromley

Many people going to this one? Think Hayes Lane is always a good trip.

Tickets on sale here:

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Crystal Ball: Pre season punt

A little over two weeks until the season starts so you have more than enough time to make your punts. Will this be the season for glory, another middle of the road run or flirting with disaster? Vote and we will see.

In addition, the Crystal Ball team needs a couple of volunteers to boost our numbers as natural attrition sees some of us move onto other things. If you can help, please send me a PM. Many hands etc.

Suggestion: Lewis Hall

Now TM is injured… Lewis Hall should be our yearly loan from Chelsea, cover at left back is a must

Time to spice up the BBS summer-Wife Swapping!!

Thought this might lift the current BBS depression!

1.5M swingers currently in the UK?

Which suggests we may have a few members who have either:
Dabbled.
Considered it.
Bottled it
Thought about it but didn't know how to approach the missus!

I am aware of at least one Palace fan who comes under the first category..

Any others?

Live Com and Updates: Millonarios

RIP Sinéad O'Connor

BBC News - Irish singer Sinéad O'Connor dies aged 56
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Sinead O’Conner

RIP

Suggestion: Robin Gosens

Looks like Inter willing to sell him, he looked really good whenever I saw him. Would normally never mention it but Wolfsburg, Nottingham Forest and Bournemouth rumoured to want him, 29 but he's absolute quality, puts in a great defensive shift, gets a good few goals each season. Works his bollocks off every game. Great cross on him too. Get him on a 3 year deal and I reckon we'd be set for the season. Probably get him for under 17 million. He'll definitely fill some of that star quality we lost with Zaha

Speculation: When will be sign a player?

Here we go!

When will we sign a player this window?

Galatasary watch

I'll be keepin eye out on their games now, anyone else interested?
Can easily watch on IPTV etc
They drew 2-2 away in CL qualifier 1st leg yesterday, let in last minute goal (scorer sent off lol)
Zaha a month away from full fitness apparently

Who will be the captain next season?

Joel Ward, Marc Guehi or someone else?

Chris Bart-Williams dies 24/7/23

Former Sheffield Wednesday and Nottingham Forest midfielder Chris Bart-Williams has died aged 49.

Sheffield Wednesday confirmed he had died in the United States, where he was a coach and mentor.

The club added: " We are deeply saddened at the passing of our former player Chris Bart-Williams."

Bart-Williams started his career at Leyton Orient and scored on his full debut for the club in a 4-0 win against Tranmere Rovers as a 16-year-old.

He joined the Owls in 1991 and made more than 100 appearances for the club.

Bart-Williams moved to Forest in 1995 and made more than 200 outings for the City ground side before stints at Charlton and Ipswich Town.

His death comes on the same day as that of Trevor Francis, who Forest made Britain's first £1m footballer when they signed him from Birmingham City in 1979.

Francis also managed Bart-Williams when he was in charge of Sheffield Wednesday and brought him on as a substitute in the 1993 FA Cup final, which saw the Owls beaten by Arsenal following a replay.

"Bart-Williams' untimely passing mirrors that of his manager at Hillsborough, Trevor Francis, who also died on this, one of the darkest days in our long history," added Sheffield Wednesday in a statement.

Former Sheffield Wednesday striker Mark Bright described Bart-Williams as "a wonderfully gifted player, with a huge personality, and a very charismatic guy".

He added: "To know him was to love him, sending love to his family, friends and former team-mates."

Former Sheffield Wednesday keeper Kevin Pressman said: "Devastating day, to hear the news of Trevor Francis passing and my former team-mate Chris Bart Williams, both taken so soon, RIP Trevor and Chris."

At Forest, Bart-Williams helped the club win the old First Division title in 1997-98 to achieve promotion to the Premier League.

Former Forest goalkeeper Mark Crossley posted on Twitter: "I'm so upset to hear the news of Trevor Francis passing and my former team mate Chris Bart Williams, both so young, it is so sad , RIP Trevor and Chris."

Ex-England striker Darren Bent, who played with Bart-Williams at Charlton, said: "RIP My former team mate Chris Bart-Williams, thoughts and prayers go out to his family and friends."

Former Coventry and Liverpool striker David Speedie tweeted: "Just when I thought the day couldn't get any worse, I've heard the devastating news Chris Bart-Williams has passed away. My thoughts go out to the family and friends of Chris at this difficult time. RIP Chris."

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How you feeling about the new season?

Got to be honest feeling a bit flat. Partly Zaha going, partly the lack of transfers, and partly there being more news stories about our best players leaving, than about players coming in.

Hopefully there will be a few exciting transfers incoming and even if not then as the start of the season approaches the buzz will return. But right now feel the club needs a lift.

Wilf Watch

Now that It's more or less a given that he's signed for Galatasary, he is no longer a current player for us.
I'm sure that so many of us will want to keep up with his playing and achievements, that those of us who want to continue supporting and encouraging him to do well .
This is the place:lux:

Adlers will soon be putting his CPFC thread into memory Lane.

So let us use this thread to encourage him in his new endeavours, and to support him where ever he finds himself.
:p

Are we satisfied with being the underdog?

I’d be interested in finding out whether people prefer to be the underdogs uncovering hidden gems and developing talent to then sell them on or if we had a huge cash injection and was immediately one of the big boys with a huge stadium ect.

Also another point, if we were taken over in the same scenario as Newcastle or Man City - would all hell break loose in the club or would people see it as an opportunity.

I feel like being a small club in a massive pond makes that rare Wembley trip or other big achievement just that little bit better.

Trevor Francis

Viv Anderson has posted on Instagram that Trevor Francis has died...

Nothing official anywhere else I can see at the moment.

Mods, wasn't quite sure where this would fit so if in wrong forum please move.

Premier league summer series friendlys

Sky currently showing games with villa Newcastle Chelsea Brighton Brentford Fulham those needing there football fix been some good games 4 3 ,3 3 ,3 2 next games Wednesday I think . Would be good competitive games for the players and bring there summer signings in to squads .

Suggestion: Theo Walcott

Good age profile for Roy at 34. You’ll know what you’ll get every week as he makes the same decisions in the final third he did at the start of his career. On a free. Hole in the squad for a winger.

Makes sense to everyone, no?

Dog issue - holiday

I am turning to the BBS for some help...

We have a dog, she is 3 years old and has just been diagnosed with degenerative joint disease, she isn't in too much pain at present but has been acting odd for last 6 months which prompted the investigation, and now we know why she didn't want to go on long walks or walks at all, and was being a bit grumpy

As we have had to limit her world (behaviourist and vet advice) she has developed a noise sensitivity and is reluctant to go anywhere now

We are a family of 4 that were looking fwd to a holiday, we got a dog as we are very much an outdoorsy family that enjoy long walks, etc, and for those holidays abroad have used a recommended kennels, now we aren't too keen on kennels due to the above, but have no alternatives

A UK holiday, where we take the dog is also not looking likely. She is very much part of the family and dearly loved but we just don't know which way to turn next.

Pain meds will obviously help her, and will help with her behaviour but they wont resolve the long term issue

Does anyone have experience of such situations and have any advice?

Speculation: Who wants Gray

I'm finding this Gray talk very disconcerting.

1. He's a reserve at Everton
2. He's 27
3. 14m Euro is hugely overpriced
4. Doesn't fit our transfer strategy
5. Would really piss me off

If we go for him then we all may as well give up.

Crystal Palace Sports Arena

I returned to the Arena yesterday & felt let down for those who want to use
A sports facility that they feel proud of.

It is so neglected, rotting wood, boarded up windows.
It is becoming a run down blight like the Old facade

The Lord Mayor of London what are you doing ?

The young people of south London NEED an outlet,need a place to practice.
Yet they turn to other means due to boredom in life.

You want ( yet it seems you don’t care) to tackle knife crime
You say you want to tackle obesity ( prove it)
You say you want to tackle pollution ( by taking more money from London people)
You say too much but do very little to help the younger generation

Disgusted when I was 15/16/17 this place I would use a lot - many sports stars used it ,it was a key event - Now is at best a skating walk way

End of an era, thnx Wilf

The video from him to galatasary fans seems to draw line under saga
Let's just celebrate probably our greatest player
Feel very lucky to see him last few seasons
Every extra one felt like Brucie bonus
Some of the stuff he did on the pitch unreal
Some of the goals still make hairs on my back stand up
Amazing palace legend
Good luck wilf I'll follow remainder of your career from afar
Wishing him well

Rumour: Chelsea submit offer for Michael Olise

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Breaking | Chelsea submit offer worth just below €45m for Crystal Palace winger Michael Olise. More follows. (RMC)

Discussion: Right Wing Back

I really hope we are targeting a RWB as I think that is a key area for us to strengthen in. Please let something positive happen soon.

Suggestion: Armel Bella-Kotchap,

21 currently playing for Southampton. Plays in defence on the left and is highly regarded in the German national side. Spurs are currently interested and is currently valued at around 17 million.

New Brighton kits announced.

I see they've announced their new kit and casual wear for male and females (and whatever else takes their fancy...

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Five Year Plan fanzines

I have a selection of FYP fanzines available to however wants them. They are free, but I would ask that you pay postage, which shouldn't be more than £10.

I have the following issues:-
1, 3, 4, 6, 7, 10, 12, 13, 15, 17, 19, 23, 24, 26, 28, 30, 31, 35, 37, 38, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 47, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53.

All in good condition.

Live Com and Updates: Watford Today 1pm

Palace: Johnstone (GK), Clyne, Tomkins, Andersen, Mitchell, Doucouré, Lerma, Ahamada, Ayew, Mateta, Eze

Subs: Matthews (GK), Ward, Richards, O’Brien, Rïedewald, Schlupp, Hughes, Gordon, Edouard, Rak-Sakyi

Animals smacked up on Cocaine

Apparently great white sharks in the Miami region are getting Charlied up due to drug smugglers dumping there load and the sharks are having a goood time.
Personally I wouldn't want to come face to face with a great white shark especially when it's on that shit:(

Rumour: Chris Francis joins from Bournemouth

According to Fabrizio Romano it’s a done deal

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Tony Bennet RIP

One of the old crooners that in my youth was looked down upon
However as musical taste matured I can appreciate his voice especially in a time when the music takes second place to the vocal. Absolutely a a star. RIP

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Suggestion: Guilherme Biro

19 and a future Brazil superstar. Release clause apparently under 10 million. Great footage of him playing.

Suggestion: Davinson Sanchez

Was highly regarded at Spurs for a while, but recently seems to have dropped down their pecking order and seems to be about to move to (debatably) a smaller club than us.

If we were to lose a CB this transfer window, would he be a good choice as a replacement? Or has he really been found out to not be all that?

Fantasy Premier League 23/24 - BBS League

The 23/24 season is fast approaching so here we go again for the BBS Fantasy Premier league!

Those who were involved last season should automatically be in this year, for anyone who wants to join please click the auto join links below -

Classic League:
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Head to Head League:
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Cheers all and best of luck - you’ll probably need it! :)

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Match Ticket Information: Can't add tickets to Apple Wallet

Hi

I've just ordered tickets for the Wolves game and been sent the email where I can add the tickets to my Apple wallet but every time I click on the link the following message comes up: Sorry, your Pass cannot be installed to Passbook at this time.

Can anyone help or encountered the same?

Live Com and Updates: MLS Next Pro Invitational; 20th July 03:30AM; 22nd and 26th July 03:00AM

Thread for all the night owls and Americans that will be up to watch the U21s tournament out in Salt Lake City.

Details as follows:

Real Monarchs v Crystal Palace U21s
Wednesday, 19th July 2023
Kick-off: 20:30 MDT / 03:30 BST - Thursday, 20th

Crystal Palace U21s v TSG Hoffenheim U23s
Friday, 21st July 2023
Kick-off: 20:00 MDT / 03:00 BST - Saturday, 22nd

Whitecaps FC 2 v Crystal Palace U21s
Tuesday, 25th July 2023
Kick-off: 20:00 MDT / 03:00 BST - Wednesday, 26th

First game is tonight, all games were meant to be live on the website, but I can’t find a link for the second game against Hoffenheim.

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Third game:
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The future of The BBS.

Ya know, just because we need a corresponding thread.

Global catastrophe inevitable?

Click bait title.

But following on from JSO thread is humanity ****ed?

Do human beings struggle too much with contemplating long term consequences, making the necessary change impossible in regards to global warming?

Are those at the top too sociopathic so don’t care about the consequences even for their kids and grandchildren?

Are the older generation too selfish in terms of being much more right wing and protecting their interests?

Personally I think huge societal change is possible, if not likely.

But I can see why people are pessimistic about humanities future.

Premier League 2 Changes

From this season the Premier League 2 Format is changing from two divisions to one. All 25 teams will play 20 games per season using the "Swiss Model" so, 6 games less than last season.

The 25 Clubs will split into 5 Pots based on their previous three seasons worth of performances. They will play the other 4 sides in their pot plus additional games from other teams.

At the end of the 20 games the top 16 will then have a knockout tournament to crown the PL2 Champion.

The Athletic Guest pass

I have been given 5 free guest passes for 30 days that coencides with the WWC. If anyone wants one please DM me.

Crumble

Name a better dessert. I'll help you out. There isn't one.

Made a delightful apple and rhubarb crumble yesterday, with probably the best crumble topping I've ever tasted. Served with both custard AND ice cream. Fight me.

Also, cold custard is better than hot custard. Fight me again.

Try and tell me a better dessert and I will prove you wrong.

Junior gold

Hi are you able to book adult tickets with just a junior gold membership. Tia

Melbourne - Victoria cancels 2026 commonwealth games.

News just breaking that Melbourne and rural Victoria is pulling out of hosting the Commonwealth games in 2026. Due to overspending here in the State, with numerous massive infrastructure projects all happening at the same time. The excuse being hosting the games, particularly in the regions was causing high-cost blowouts. From an anticipated 2 Billion AUD now up to 6 Billion.

Wonder where they will be held now, or is it the end of them?

London is going to be a tad surprised when they wake up to this news in the morning.

July 20- By Elections

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On 20th we have the by elections triggered by couple of resignations.

Shame there is no by elections in Bedfordshire as Nadine Dorris is still holding on to her seat.

I was listening to LBC and they had someone walk the streets and there seems to be a very anti tory sentiment. But I still think Tories might hold Uxbridge (just about) and I hope not.

Car insurance write off valuations

Someone has written off my wife’s car. The loss valuation we have received (from her insurance company - not the other side’s though we’ll be speaking to them too) is about £2k less than I can find a higher mileage version of her car for.

Is this normal? Any tips on how to get this challenged?

Suggestion: Luis Sinisterra

Left winger, just turned 24, who should be available after Leeds went down. Was brilliant for Feyenoord before joining Leeds last summer and very good when not injured last season.

Leeds have done a few season long loans (obviously for a fee) so could be a 'try before you buy' option. Personally I'd prefer him to Sarr.

Discussion: Ideal Window

OK, given there have been a few developments, who do you want in?

For the purposes of my picks I'm assuming both Andersen and Wilf are gone, hence why I've prioritised the top 2.

1. Perr Schuurs
2. Matheus França
3. Gift Orban
4. Sacha Boey
5. Willy Gnonto

Reckon we would finish top 8 with these additions.

Official: Kofi Balmer joins Port Vale Season long loan

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Another good opportunity for one of the youngsters.

I imagine there will be a few more going out over the coming weeks.

Live Com and Updates: Brøndby

Crystal Palace F.C. @CPFC
Kick-off for our pre-season friendly against @BrondbyIF has been delayed to 14:15 (BST)

Disposable Vape ban on the cards

I really hope so, fast food wrappers and vapes are littered everywhere.

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The recycling scheem is a red herring. Anyone who throws them on the floow wont suddenly become green and take them back.
HUGE problem in our local school and far more adictive than fags or proper vapes as the nicotine content is so high.

Just in case, Perth Glory v West Ham live.

Games about to start here soon, live on TV, should be able to find a stream if anyone is interested in an Aus Team sticking it up erm.

Tottenham next week in Perth I think.

Official: Goodman loaned to Colchester

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Good opportunity for him.

FFP is really working

According to reports UEFA has fined Manchester United for a breach of FFP regulations:

Quote:

Manchester United have been fined 300,000 euros (£257,000) by Uefa for a "minor" breach of Financial Fair Play (FFP) rules. They were one of a number of clubs sanctioned by Uefa under FFP rules in place between 2019 and 2022. United said they were "disappointed by the outcome". However, they added the club accepted the fine "for what Uefa acknowledges to be a minor technical breach of its previous Financial Fair Play rules". In explaining the reason for the punishment, United continued that "this reflected a change in the way that Uefa adjusted for Covid-19 losses during the 2022 reporting period, which allowed us to recognise only 15m euros of the 281m euros of revenues lost due to the pandemic within the FFP calculation".

The words "minor" breach and a club claiming Euro 281m of losses against a recognised loss of Euro 15m seems a bit of a stretch.

If i was at work and submitted an expenses claim for £281 and someone said hang-on it only adds up to £15 I doubt is I would be working for the same company today.

Surely the Premier League will act!!

Rumour: Matheus França

We have apparently offered €15m for Franca:

Flamengo: Crystal Palace offers 15 million euros for Matheus França

Crystal Palace entered strongly in the dispute for Matheus França and presented this week to Flamengo an official proposal worth 15 million euros (R$ 80.5 million).

The tendency is for the Rubro-Negro to make a decision in the coming days about the transfer. The Rio de Janeiro club does not see the need to sell, but understands that the player is an important asset and, therefore, has greater negotiating power.

In early July, Flamengo warned the market that it would like to receive 25 million euros (R$ 134.5 million) for the young attacking midfielder, in a package that could include bonuses for goals achieved.

Chelsea are also keenly interested in the 19-year-old and have had concrete talks with the parties involved for days. The blues even had a proposal turned down in January.

The American John Textor, an investor in SAF do Botafogo, is the biggest enthusiast of signing France for Crystal Palace, as he is also a shareholder in the English club.

At the age of 19, Matheus França is in his second solid season in Flamengo's professional team. In 2023, he made 28 appearances, scored three goals and provided one assist.

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Match Ticket Information: Home Friendly vs Lyon. 5th August. 17:30

On sale now.

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Aults £15
Seniors £10
U18s £5

Arthur Wait is closed for this match

Discussion: Would you take Dele Ali from Everton?

I personally would on a short-term deal (season loan, with option to buy)
Has a point to prove.
Still a player there, I would argue that since Poch left Spurs he has not had a coach that has believed in him.
Worked with Roy and Ray at England, move back to London alot of English lads at Palace.
Still have nightmares about that volley he scored against us when he flicked it over Jedi and volleyed it home.

Karen Carney: Women's football in England could be a 'billion pound industry'

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Domestic women's football could become a "billion pound industry" in 10 years' time says former Lionesses midfielder Karen Carney - the chair of a major review into the sport.

Her 126-page report recommends the top two tiers of women's football in England being fully professional.

It also calls for a new regular broadcast slot for women's football to be made available on television.
..continues

What do we think? I think it's an inaliable fact that Women's football will see an influx of investors, and soon. It's almost green field at present, there is significant room for growth, huge potential, and we started our Pro team at just the right time. Now we need to aim for promotion so that girls can really push on.

Milan Kundera - RIP

One of my favourite authors, who wrote three of the novels that I rate among the best of the 20th Century (The Joke, The Unbearable Lightness of Being and Immortality).

RIP

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Just seen this, very sad :(

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:( RIP both.

Live Com and Updates: Barnet

First half:



Second half:

Pre-season: Barnet (A) Tuesday 11th July 7:30pm

Should I assume from the lack of chat about it that Barnet tomorrow isn't a first-team friendly?

23/24 memberships

Not sure which section to put this but this seems closest.

I want to renew my gold membership again. The blurb buried somewhere on the site said these would be available today but if you follow the info links it shows them as ‘sold out’. The urgency is that I hoped to watch tomorrows friendly on palace tv. Assuming it’s the same as previous years the palace tv comes as part of the gold membership so don’t want to subscribe twice (palace tv subs are available).

They also mention a sub just for the friendlies. Do we know if they have separated this out completely as a one off purchase outside of the rest or is it still included in any palace tv/gold membership. As the match is tomorrow there isn’t a lot of time to sort it out so if anyone knows, please share.

Fair Game: The Fight for a better future for football

On the 17th of July, Fair Game will release its much anticipated and needed ‘Fair Game Index’. The Index will rank all 92 Premier League and EFL clubs, using 4 criteria, taken from Tracey Crouch's Fan-Led Review; financial sustainability, governance, fan engagement and equality standards.*
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Using Fair Game’s Index, those who are well-run would be rewarded financially according to their performance against the 4 criteria. The funds to reward our well-run clubs would be collected from Premier League transfer levies and a fairer distribution of the current astronomical TV revenues.*
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In recent times, a large proportion of football clubs seem to have been run through a ‘boom or bust’ nature, putting at risk the livelihoods of those working at our clubs and the clubs themselves,* which often act as an anchor of the local community. In 2019, Bury FC, who had 125 years in the Football League, were expelled from the EFL and dissolved due to bankruptcy. Meanwhile in 2020, Macclesfield Town received a winding-up order which ended their 146 year-old history with English football.*
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Fair Game's Index and its proposed new distribution of funding would put an end to that gambling culture and reward well-run clubs.
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Find out how Crystal Palace did by going to the Fair Game website on July the 17th. If you register you can also see how much they would get from the proposed funding model. Please also write to your MP or local Councillor and ask them to support the creation of an Independent Regulator for English Football, or ask your club to become a Fair Game Club.
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Together we can create a fairer future for football.

Anyone been to Sardinia?

Hi guys, I’m thinking of visiting Sardinia in the near future. Does anyone have any tips on towns/places to go and things to do? Thanks :)

BBC star accused of paying 17-year-old for explicit pictures

…by The Sun newspaper, who used to pay 16-year-olds for explicit pictures to publish for profit on page 3.

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I can imagine that every BBC presenter is now frantically ringing their agent trying to get a guest spot on absolutely anything this weekend. Except one.

Edwin Van der Sar

Van der Sar collapsed on holiday in Croatia with a brain haemorrhage. Hope he recovers, poor fella.

Thanks Eddie

:p

Wimbledon major incident

One confirmed dead

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Repaired tyres: Good or no no

Are repaired tyres Good and safe or not recommended?


And if you are a worrier, such as I, is there no price to be put on peace of mind, except the cost of new tyre of course?


Thank you.

André Moritz - announces retirement

André Moritz has announced his retirement from football (age 36).

27 league games / 5 league goals for Palace 2012-13.

[Source: CPFC official website]

Horology ... what's your daily wear/what's on your wrist today?

Explorer 1 in 39mm is my daily wear ... if an Explorer 1 was good enough for Ian Fleming .. then sorted!
Not asking your best watch .... just your everyday go-to?

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Crawley pre season

Hi does anyone know if this game will.be our 1st team? Thanks

The Manageress

Not Cherie Lunghi, but Hannah Dingley at Forest Green Rovers. She's currently the caretaker manager but holds a UEFA Pro Licence

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Your favourite political song .... and why?

Great song and a song of it's time!

Millwall Owner & Chairman Dies

Obviously not our favourite neighbours, but hopefully no one would wish this on them, very sad for his family, and must throw questions about their ownership.

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Lessons from a Blitzer-owned club: Real Salt Lake

This is long. There's a TLDR at the bottom.

Although Blitzer is no longer heavily involved with Palace, it's interesting to see how the multi-club model is working and what to expect since Textor does it too and it is increasingly popular in the world of football.

History: In January of 2022 when the group Blitzer was a part of first took over RSL there was a lot of excitement and talk that connections to clubs (like Palace) would have an immediate impact. People started talking about getting players like Benteke (who eventually went to non-Blitzer D.C. United). This didn't pan out. There was no immediate influx of cash or players and new manager Pablo Mastroeni was asked to do a lot with little. RSL had a few solid veteran players and really only one young player showing promise in RB Aaron Hererra. Eighteen months later, Hererra has moved on and RSL is flooded with young talent and looking twice the team that they were.

Lesson 1 Scouting Network: RSL has used the draft and purchases of developing players to great advantage.

MLS has a player draft where teams select and obtain the rights to graduating US collegiate players. Players like Jacob Montes come from this and end up 23 year-old rookies who never break into the first team. The "best" player ever selected in the MLS draft is probably former Stoke and QPR defender Geoff Cameron. Surprisingly, for two years in a row, RSL has drafted a collegiate player who immediately had an impact and got first team minutes in Jasper Löffelsend and Emeka Eneli. Loffelsend will probably always be a low-level squad player but Eneli has proven very dependable at RB and DM. People outside the club haven't noticed yet but he is good.

RSL also obtained the rights to U19 Diego Luna who looks and plays much older than he is and makes up for lack of pace with excellent field vision and passing (think a tatted-up Will Hughes). After a year with the team Luna has finally broken in as a dynamic first-team starter and is making noise in the league after a great showing with the U21 USMNT.

On top of all that, a recent influx of young Colombian players Andres Gomez, Brayan Vera, and Nelson Palacio have immediately added much needed youth and flair to the RSL first team.

All this is to say RSL scouting has been great in North and South America right from the jump with the new owners. A cut above other teams in the league. It took 18 months but is showing through now which is sooner than reasonably could have been expected. Note that the previous owner built an excellent academy by US standards four years ago and it is only just now starting to pay dividends. Not sure if they'd have gotten that from the current owners.

Lesson 2 Shady Deals: The managerial equivalent of the dark arts in football. Owners of multiple-clubs can use loans and player transfers to circumvent fair-play and financial regulations. It's not all bad though. In most cases, if you have an overpaid player who isn't performing they hang around like an albatross. Not so if you are part of a multi-club group. Almost every RSL loan last season involved a Blitzer-owned club and while impact on the pitch was low, the loans mattered to club finances. When the books are going to balance either way, getting a loan done for players like Sergio Cordova and Everton Luiz are much easier. This is also a good thing for the players who can get a new opportunity without a pay cut if their current club/manager isn't a good fit. I imagine it might help recruit younger players with lots of potential who know they can get a move if they get stuck. If clubs like Chelsea are going to play these games, smaller clubs at least can try to keep up.

Lesson 3 Backing the manager: Viewing the club as an investment isn't ideal but it does mean the owners want to enhance the club's value. I'm convinced that the results of 18 months of good scouting and talent development combined with savvy player transfers have made it feasible for RSL to pull the trigger on the biggest deal in club history bringing Colombian Cristian "Chicho" Arango in. Chicho scored 16 goals last season and won the MLS cup with LAFC. With a good striker, RSL is at a high water mark right now and has a chance to really compete this season after a long struggle.

Why didn't we see this when Blitzer got involved with Palace? Two reasons. first, the Premier League is at too high a level, more than a step above the level of RSL. The costs are much higher, the stakes are much higher and the competition includes super-rich clubs that will cut your throat to get the best players. Second, Parish rightfully maintained control of Palace limiting what Blitzer could do.Textor seems in a better position to take advantage of links to Palace. He has hooks in better clubs (Lyon and Botafogo are considerably better than FC Augsburg and RSL). Given time, we might see more benefits from the relationship than just the occasional U21 player loaned to Molenbeek.

Overall. I don't like the multi-club ownership model. It's still better in every way to a Sovereign Wealth Fund.

TL DR: RSL has seemingly benefitted from being part of the Blitzer group of clubs. In just 18 months they have shown savvy scouting, recruitment, player investment, and a willingness to back the manager when the finances are in order. Things aren't all rosy and football is still ultimately doomed but it's something.

Rumour: Callum Hudson-Odoi

Callum Hudson-Odoi has decided to leave Chelsea this summer...

....But Hudson-Odoi feels the time has come to move to a club where he has a better chance of regular first team football. Nottingham Forest, Crystal Palace, Fulham and AC Milan are among the clubs who are interested.

A transfer fee to seal Hudson-Odoi’s departure has still to be agreed but the winger is expecting to resolve his future soon so he can prepare for the season at his new club.

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Suggested Team and Formation For: Sheffield United (away)

Everything is looking good as things currently stand. Always tough the opening game of the season against newly promoted teams but in Roy (and the board) we trust. A point would be a terrific result, and boost our chances of avoiding relegation, because we can hopefully win the reverse fixture.

——————-———-Johnstone——————————-
Ward———-Andersen————-Guehi————-Mitchell
——————Doucoure————Lerma————————-
Ayew—————————Eze—————————-Schlupp
——————————-Edouard————————————

It’s great we’ve been prepared for once, and managed to sort out the important business really early. Lerma is going to give us so much solidity in the centre of midfield for Roy’s double pivot. Schlupp will be like a new player in his wide left role. If we can sign Wilf it’ll just be the icing on the cake. Very excited for the new season, Edouard’s finally going to get the service he needs. Hoping for 0-0. Would be a brilliant point. (It’s not too early, the next 5 or so weeks will tick down really quickly.) COYP.

Match Ticket Information: Crawley v Palace Wed 19th July 19.45pm

Hi All,

Does anyone know when the Crawley away pre season tickets are going on sales please?

I phoned the Crawley box office last week, they said Palace have their allocation and were going on sales today (3rd July).

Speculation: Reiss Nelson

Out of contract. Arsenal have offered a new one. Newcastle have expressed interest too

Would seem unlikely we could upstage two such big clubs, but apparently we are interested

Suggestion: Ward prowse

Haven't heard much talk about ward prowse, thought a few teams would have been straight in for him ?

Happy birthday

Have a great day R.O.B. lovely chap and great poster.

Psychedelics and Mental Health

After the palaver at Lords today some might not fancy giving the Aussies much credit, but I can only hope we will soon be brave enough to follow their lead. Politics have been blocking the path for many sufferers for far too long. IMO, of course.

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Good on ya, ya fack'n ignoble bastards.

Palace TV problem

You require a selected membership or palace tv+ subscription to access this video

I'm getting this message when I try and watch a full 90min game.


I've already bought next seasons Season Ticket+ and this should be available to me. Is anyone else having this problem?

Suggestion: Ashley Young

I know...........but bear with me. He played 29 times in the PL last season, 23 starts, and can play right or left back. I thought he looked good last season and was often Villa's first choice rb. In the absence of us doing anything else in the full back positions then surely worth a 1 year deal on a free. Would also seem a Roy type of player.

Thoughts?

Popular Palace players/managers that were popular with other fans too

Apologies for the long thread title, and if this has been done before.

Examples of what I'm talking about:

Nigel Martyn, very popular also with Leeds and Everton fans.
Steve Coppell - Man Utd and also Reading.

The Premier league

So what do we thing of the other teams in the Premier league? Let's start with Arsenal
Arsenal As long as I have watched football since the 70-s they have been the biggest club in London. I just find supporting Arsenal a safe an easy option, they are always reasonably successful, play nice football and generally it's all just a bit dull.