September Betting Masters 202

BM - 202 ...All welcome, show the BBS who the best punter is; don't delay join today!

Order of Merit update (after April)

Finbar 25
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StuNick 18
Funk Butter 18
kayjay 17.5
3 Beers at HT 16
Stigma 10
Louis 8
PoolKing 7.5
Grim Reaper 7


Previous winners:

1: el mico
2: three-way 0-0-0 final draw !!!(Plugster, late mail and odds against)
3: Finbar
4: Grim Reaper
5: EagleSE24
6: LLCOOLSTEVE
7: Stigma
8: Stigma
9: Stigma
10: Tor
11: Finbar
12: Finbar
13: old git
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Overall best betting in 2004: Stigma
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14. Reps AJ
15. bradley eagle
16. Tor
17. LLCOOLSTEVE
18. stevejfh
19. Tor
20. Finbar
21. Drunk eagle
22. Ozeagle
23. LLCOOLSTEVE
24. Wildcat Army
25. LLCOOLSTEVE
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Overall best better in 2005: stevejfh
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26: si1965
27: Ozeagle
28: srs9jps
29. si1965
30: hakers
31: Tor (WC '06)
32: srs9jps
33: NO1FAN
34: Drunk eagle
35: Stigma
36: Stigma
37: DedBallSpeshlst
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Overall best better in 2006: Flat Noodle
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38: LLCOOLSTEVE
39: Finbar
40: richdeniro
41: Stigma
Champions league winner 06/07: Ian Hart
UEFA Cup winner 06/07: Gav The Hamster
42: Finbar
43: Funk Butter
44: PoolKing
45: Funk Butter
46: Drunk Eagle
47: StuNick
48: Stigma
49: StuNick
Champions league winner 07/08-1: Finbar
UEFA Cup winner 07/08-1: Gav The Hamster
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Overall best better in 2007: Finbar
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50: GodstoneEagle
51: Funk Butter
52: Finbar
53: Funk Butter
54: LLCOOLSTEVE
55: Al From Bromley
56: Stigma
2008 Olympics: pauldrulez
57: pauldrulez
58: NO1FAN
59: Al From Bromley
60: Drunk Eagle
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Overall best better in 2008: StuNick
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61: StuNick
62: ardeo
63: Stigma
64: LLCOOLSTEVE
65: Finbar
66: No1Fan
67: Al From Bromley
68: Al From Bromley
69: Funk Butter
70: DedBallSpeshlst
71: Kayjay
72: Gooders
73: gjohnk
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Overall best better in 2009: Funk Butter
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74: Finbar
75: StuNick
76: DedBallSpeshlst
77: Swanny32
78: Funk Butter
79: Funk Butter
80: gjohnk
81: Finbar
82: MynamenisnotMax
83: No1Fan
84: gjohnk
85: Little Fozzie
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World Cup 2010 winner: old git
Overall best better in 2010: ?????
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86: Flat Noodle
87: Finbar
88: GodstoneEagle
89: Flat Noodle
90: mynameisnotmax
91: Louis
92: Funk Butter
93: gjohnk
94: DedBallSpeshlst
95: Stigma
96: cantspell
97: No1Fan
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2011 Order of Merit Winner: Finbar
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March 100th edition knockout special: Little Fozzie
Champions league winner 1st half 2011: Finbar
Champions league winner 2nd half 2011: StuNick
Jan - May UEFA Cup winner 2011: StuNick
Aug - Dec UEFA Cup winner 2011: Housey100

98: 3 Beers at HT
99: StuNick
100: cantspell
101: Funk Butter
102: Finbar
103: Swanny32
104: Funk Butter
105: Louis
106: srs9jps
107: Funk Butter
108: LLCOOLSTEVE
109: Funk Butter
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2012 Order of Merit Winner: Funk Butter
August - Dec 2012 Champions League winner: Swanny32
August - Dec 2012 UEFA Cup winner: JamTheEagle
Jan - May 2012 Champions League winner: No1Fan
Jan - May 2012 UEFA Cup winner: Ian Hart
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110: Louis
111: Louis
112: Gooders
113: Finbar
114: Little Fozzie
115: StuNick
116: Flat Noodle
117: Louis
118: evvo111
119: srs9jps
120: StuNick
121: LLCOOLSTEVE
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2013 Order of Merit Winner: Louis

Jan - May 2013 Champions League Winner: Gooders
Jan - May 2013 UEFA Cup winner: Scoopster
Aug - Dec 2013 Champions League Winner: Little Fozzie
Aug - Dec 2013 UEFA Cup Winner: Stigma
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122: No1Fan
123: PoolKing
124: LLCOOLSTEVE
125: 3 Beers at HT
126: Louis
127: Finbar
128: LLCOOLSTEVE
129: 3 Beers at HT
130: Finbar
131: Funk Butter
132: Stig
133: Louis

2014 Order of Merit winner: Finbar
Jan - May 2014 Champions League Winner: Stigma
Jan - May 2014 UEFA Cup winner: Bellyman
Aug - Dec 2014 Champions League Winner: Ardeo
Aug - Dec 2014 UEFA Cup Winner: PoolKing
Winter Olympics 2014 Winner: srs9jps

134: Gooders
135: Finbar
136: 3 Beers at HT
137: Funk Butter
138: €pfc
139: Gooders
140: Funk Butter
141: Louis
142: evvo111
143: pauldrulez
144: Louis
145: evvo111

2015 Order of Merit winner: Finbar
Jan - May 2015 Champions League Winner: Funk Butter
Jan - May 2015 UEFA Cup winner: Flat Noodle
Aug - Dec 2015 Champions League Winner: PoolKing
Aug - Dec 2015 UEFA Cup Winner: Little Fozzie
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146: Louis
147: PoolKing
148: Louis
149: evvo111
150: LLCOOLSTEVE
151: StuNick
152: 3 Beers at HT
153: evvo111
154: Finbar
155: 3 Beers at HT
156: Finbar
157: StuNick
2016 Order of Merit winner: StuNick
Jan - May 2016 Champions League Winner: Finbar
Jan - May 2016 UEFA Cup winner: Little Fozzie
Euros 2016 special winner: 3 Beers at HT
2016 Olympics Winner: Funk Butter
Aug - Dec 2016 Champions League Winner: gjohnk
Aug - Dec 2016 UEFA Cup Winner: €pfc

158: 3 Beers at HT
159: Stigma
160: Finbar
161: 3 Beers at HT
162: StuNick
163: Louis
164: Louis
165: PoolKing
166: Louis
167: Finbar
168: Kayjay
169: StuNick
2017 Order of Merit winner: StuNick
Jan - May 2017 Champions League Winner: gjohnk
Jan - May 2017 UEFA Cup winner: Funk Butter
Aug - Dec 2017 Champions League Winner: StuNick
Aug - Dec 2017 UEFA Cup Winner: Louis

170: Louis
171: Finbar
172: Louis
173: Stigma
174: Finbar
175: Louis
176: Stigma
177: StuNick
178: Funk Butter
179: Stigma
180: Finbar
181: Funk Butter
2018 Order of Merit winner: Stigma
Jan - May 2018 Champions League Winner: gjohnk
Jan - May 2018 UEFA Cup winner: eagles073
World Cup BM 2018: 3 Beers at HT
Aug - Dec 2018 Champions League Winner: Stigma
Aug - Dec 2018 UEFA Cup Winner: StuNick

182: Stigma
183: PoolKing
184: StuNick
185: Louis
186: Funk Butter
187: Funk Butter
188: Louis
189: aj4england
190: StuNick
191: Finbar
192: PoolKing
193: Funk Butter
2019 Order of Merit winner: PoolKing
Jan - May 2019 Champions League Winner: StuNick
Jan - May 2019 UEFA Cup winner: Little Fozzie
Aug - Dec 2019 Champions League Winner: Little Fozzie
Aug - Dec 2019 UEFA Cup Winner: PoolKing

194: Kayjay
195: Finbar
196: Finbar
197: 3 Beers at HT
198: Finbar
199: StuNick
200: kayjay
201:
202:

Rules are as follows

1 Every player has 200 points to bet with in the first round.

2 Each separate bet made is 10 points meaning players have 20 bets during the first 20 days. Maximum bet on a single market is 10 points, same rule applies for identical multis (basically no duplicate bets though you can do a team A, team B double on one bet and then add team C for a treble in another bet)

3 In the second round the 4* finalists all start by carrying forward 25% of their score from the first round added to the 150 points that can bet used in the second round. The person who qualifies for the final with the most points also gets an additional 10pt bet. (*if the number of participants gets to 16 or more, then a 5th finalist place will be added and then one more for every 5 players on top of that).

4 Betting Masters, first group stages runs from 0000 on the first of the month (standard UK time) to 2359hrs on the 20th of the month. Then the top four* posters come together in a mini league from there on until the end of the month.
Final bet settlement must occur before 2359 on the last day of the month.

5 Naturally the winner is the person with the highest score at the end of the last day of the month.

6 Scoring consists of total winnings and is inclusive of 10 point stake i.e. someone bets on a 6/4 horse and it wins their score becomes 25 (15 points profits plus the 10 pt stake) There is no score for any bets not used. Losing bets are scored as zero, not -10.
Any bet from an exchange bookie will have a 4% commission (on the winnings), if nothing else is explicitly stated in the post.

7 Players must quote where they're getting their prices.

8 Singles and upwards accepted.

9 For boxed multis and bets such as Yankees, each separate bet within the bet counts as separate and will cost 10pts per bet. e.g. ten trebles from five selections will use up 100 points.

10. E/W bets are counted as two bets in the masters, which means 10 points x 2

11. For tracking purposes, players are requested to put the outcome of their bets on the post for all events other than European soccer/tennis.

12. Where possible players are requested to put down a running total of their bets in their posts, although I'll also try and produce rolling league tables where possible.

13. After a bet has been posted up, one is not allowed to edit it..

14. The bets must be possible to do in real life, meaning for example that if you got a multi, all the odds have to come from 1 bookmaker. You can’t shop around for the highest odds and put them together. "Special promotion" type bets are not allowed though BOG (Best Odds Guaranteed) are.

15. Bets must be placed at odds of 1/10 (or 1.1 in decimal) or higher

16. Any Draw No Bet bets where the result is a push will always have the bet settled as void, never 10pts. Any asian handicap bet where the result is a push (in full) will have the bet settled as void. Any asian handicap where half of the stake is returned will be marked down as 5pts with the remainder of the Asian handicap settled as a win or a loss (this is applicable for asian handicaps such as 2.25 or -2, -2.5 etc)

17. In the event that a player is not sure if their bet will finish in time, before midnight on the 20th or midnight for qualifying midnight on the final day of the month for the final, they can make a provisional bet or bets which then become actual bets only if their original selection(s) finishes at 12.01am or after.

Tyrick Mitchell discussion

Couldn't see an active thread on Mitchell so thought I would start one to discuss him.

There is a new article by Woosie on the Atheltic about him.

Will be interesting to see if he does start the season in our starting line-up while PVA recovers and to see how he develops this season.

I thought he was a bit timid in terms of his attacking play against Charlton and didn't forward as near as I would like, especially in a game we were dominating possession (I think Ward was offering more offensively).

However he produced an excellent piece of defending to rescue a situation when Charlton had got in behind us.

Suggested Team and Formation For: This Season

let's assume everyone's fit and Zaha stays

VG

Ferguson
Tomkins
Cahill
PVA


Mccarthur
Kouyate
Gallagher

Zaha
Ayew
Eze


Subs: Hennessey, Kelly, Sakho, Luka, Mccarthy, Townsend, Schlupp

reverses: Ward, Jairo, Henderson, Dann, Wickham, Mitchell, Pierrick

Hopefully never play: Benteke

NOT BAD, but another striker needed!!!!!

Stunning goal from Lilly Bright

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Striker or Center back? Which do we need more?

Think we might have a problem so many first team injuries. We need to move fast and get some bodies in. But who can we get with limited funds?

Rumour: Moussa Marega

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Youtube edits.

Is it possible to post edited (using their 'start from') Youtube videos? I've tried a couple of times but the edit is ignored and the video runs from the beginning.

Internet problems today?

Anyone else experiencing internet problems today?

Currently (3pm Sunday 30th August), I can't access the BBC website, I get:

"This site can’t be reached

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The same problem with duckduckgo

Rumour: Josh Cullen

Fulham and us interested in West Ham midfielder according to To view the link you have to Register or Login

Rumour: Jordan Ibe

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Imagine being a Palace fan!

Seriously! You got to be the wrong shade of special to even entertain the idea?!

Kaveh - Sky muppet

Kaveh has decided to go all in on HLTCO on Twitter (no idea how to post links). Interesting call by him as he is more off the mark than Geoff Thomas’ effort at Wembley for England.

Suspect his bosses will be asking questions.

Emmerson Boyce has come out of retirement

10:37
THE BOYCE ARE BACK IN TOWN

Here's a bit of a blast from the past for you. 2013 FA Cup winner Emmerson Boyce has come out of retirement to join North West Counties Football League side Ashton Town.

Boyce spent nine years at Wigan before retiring in 2016 - only to now re-emerge at the ripe old age of 40.

Josh Harris

Josh Harris an adviser to Trump.

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I knew former chair Steve Brownett was a Brexit campaign funder, Steve Parish a keen Brexiter, at least in the past, but our part owner from American a Donald Trump adviser? I did not know this.
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Live Com and Updates: Charlton 2PM

Can't see a thread. I'm looking forward to this. Worked well on TV browser last time.

Leeds- media bias

Why are Leeds Utd transfers getting announced on BBC Radio news bulletins this morning? They seem to be a media love child for some reason. Sky running programs about Bielsa and special editions of Premier League World. Don't recall say, Villa getting this level of attention when they were promoted and they have an equally succesful and colourful history. Even Newscastle didn't get this level of interest. :confused:

10/10 TV show episodes.

Film thread inspired.

Hush - Buffy the Vampire Slayer, demons steal the voices of everyone in town so it has no dialogue, the actors work their socks off to move the plot along.

The Luck of the Fryrish - Futurama, just beats Jurassic Bark for a comic tear jerker with flashbacks showing Fry's family dealing with his disappearance.

The Simpsons monorail episode, all the more impressive as it was written by one person (Conan O'Brien) I believe.

Lost - The Pilot, it starts just after the plane crash and establishes around 15 characters and the weirdness of the island really well and got a lot of people hooked (shame about later).

Match Updates: Aug 29/30

A classic weekend of football. I can hardly breathe with anticipation.

Community Shield: Arsenal v Liverpool. 4:30. BT Sport

Plus some classic Scottish Premier games where surely Livingston v Ross County has the potential of being named game of the season already.

EFL action too with Preston taking on Mansfield.

Sit back and enjoy.

Plans for Fox News style channel in the UK

Sad day if this type of thing happens under the banner of mainstream news, I remember Cameron floating the idea of removing the impartiality requirement for broadcast news in the coalition days to cozy up to Murdoch.

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Rip Chadwick Boseman

BBC News - Chadwick Boseman: Black Panther star dies of cancer aged 43
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No ages, a brilliant actor

Films you would give 10/10.

West Side Story.

Repair of a scratch in car paintwork

Anyone have experience with repairing a scratch in a car’s paintwork that is small but deep enough to have got below the clear-coat?

I have one that about 25 to 30 mm long left, which on a dark grey vehicle is really noticeable.

I took it to one place and they wanted $650 to repair it… talked about having to respray the entire panel… forget that!

I took it and got the vehicle detailed, and they got all the trailing marks out, but the 25 to 30 mm “white” scratch is still there.

Googling comes up with some products, that are a) basically touch-up paints, and b) very expensive and c) do it yourself (which I’m OK with if they work). I’m not sure why body shops don’t offer this service… I guess the $650 quoted above is why!

Where’s Dean Childs when you need him???

5 subs this season still a possibility

Really hope the rest of us don't get pushed around and give in to the bully boys.

Got to wonder if by bringing it back now the big boys might quietly put pressure on the other clubs 'in the interest of keeping good relationships' in order to loan/ be sold players.

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Suggestion: Daniel James- Loan

If Fraser doesn't happen I think he would be an excellent loan acquisition. He doesn't look to be in favour at Man United, young, rapid and we could give him some game time. If he does well it's not unrealistic that we could sign him permanently either. I think he's a top talent, needs a run of games.

Your 5 topping selection

Any 5 different genres, best song;

Reggae = Ganja Smuggling - Eek a Mouse
Disco = Cuba - Gibson Bros
Rap = Lose Yourself - Eminem
Rock = Wont Get Fooled Again - The Who
Electronica = 8 Ball - Underworld

Crystal Ball: Do we need Zaha?

personally I think not,

Guiata (Hennessey)
Ferguson (Ward)
Cahill (Dann)
Tomkins (Kelly)
PVA (Mitchell)


Mcarthur (Mcarthy)
Luka (Jairo)
Kouyate (Meyer)

Ayew (Townsend)
Schlupp (Pierrick)
Eze (Wickham)

and thats not even including Sakho, Benteke both of whom should be shipped out imo. For me it's a very very capable Premier League squad, and I can't help but feel that the issue is Hodgson and his outdated tactics rather than the squad, which I feel any capable manager should be able to keep up in the Premier League with ease, and with a much more exciting brand of football. And who knows if Fraser and this striker bloke come in, I think we could be in for an exciting season providing either Hodgson breaks the habit of a lifetime and actually plays with a somewhat attacking mindset, or Parish bites the bullet early doors and gets rid!

Obviously ideal world Zaha bucks his ideas up, commits to the club and we all live happily ever after, but I'd far rather we got rid, for whatever price, than had him stinking out the place all year. This squad without Zaha is easily good enough, just need a manager that can get the best out of them!

Discussion: Bryan Mbuemo

We all know about the interest in Brentford's Watkins and Benrahma from many clubs, so considering Bryan Mbuemo also had a very good season for them I'm quite surprised to only just see supposed interest in him from Leicester. French under 21 forward who scored 16 goals for them last season. Could be a good option and probably a sensible price too.

Unusual places bumping into Palace players

I'm hoping there are some cracking stories out there.

I have one myself, which I'll reveal at some point.

Rumour: Sorloth

Not sure how reliable but could be interesting

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Peanut butter ?

Should only go on hot toast or crumpets and always be the crunchy version!

£5 to watch Charlton

Are you taking the p!ss?

Crystal Ball: When will Roy play a new signing

Perhaps a valid discussion: do we think Roy will break his painstaking regime of insisting new players spend 3 months having all their character, flair and spontaneity vanquished before blooding them with a series of glorious 88th minute substitute opportunities, in which they have the mouth watering task of helping us defend a 0-1 loss.

Is Roy going to change this coming season? Was he making us play incredibly dull, turgid football because he lacked the players? If he gets the players, will we stop being one of the lowest scoring teams in the league, especially at home where our record is now unarguably pathetic for goals from open play - relegation levels for years now.

19/20
15 goals at home in 19 games (lowest in the league, only Norwich scored <20)

18/19
19 goals at home in 19 games (join 2nd from bottom on goals scored)

nb. before anyone posts it, you can't cancel out this discussion by saying "keeps us in the top flight though" - as a season ticket holder, it's absolutely valid to be fed up with the dross at home.

Palace’s first ever Football League match - 28th August 1920.

Today marks quite an important landmark in the history of our club and indeed the Football League.

Up until 1920, Palace had spent the majority of their 15 years playing in the Southern League - apart from the 1st World War years between 1915-18. Other London clubs, had entered the Football League a little earlier than Palace, at the time of our foundation in 1905, the Football League was mainly the preserve of Northern and Midland clubs, only Arsenal in 1893 and Luton (very briefly between 1897-1900) had joined the Football League and it took Arsenal a full 10 seasons to reach the First Division in 1904 - clubs such as Chelsea, Orient, Fulham and Spurs only joined the Football League after Palace were formed in 1905.

Palace were among the majority of Southern League clubs to form the new Football League Third Division in 1920 - the Northern clubs did not form the Northern Section until 1921 - so when Palace won the title in 1921, we became the first ever winners of Division Three.

Of course, in true Palace style, the first match ended in defeat, away to Merthyr Town in South Wales. Merthyr only lasted till 1930 in the FL and got voted out in favour of another short lived club called Thames who played at West Ham greyhound track and wore red and blue (1930/33).

It was quite an auspicious day back in 1920 and here is a newspaper clip from the

2020/21 TV Fixture Announcements

Please note that the following is working to the assumption that the "traditional" TV Coverage schedule is ongoing:

Amazon Prime

Package F 20 Games over two game weeks (circa 15th December and 28th December) plus two additional fixtures at a later point in the season.

BT Sports

Packages A & G Saturday at 12:30pm and several Midweek Fixtures.

Sky Sports

Packages B, C, D & E:

32 Fixtures Saturday 5:30pm
8 Fixtures Saturday 7:45pm
32 Fixtures Sunday 2:30pm
32 Fixtures Sunday 4:30pm
24 Fixtures Monday or Friday 8pm

BBC will continue to provide Highlights via Match of the Day and Match of the Day 2

Announcement Schedule

TBC

Confirmed Kick-Off Times due to TV Matches having been announced

May

Liverpool - H - Sunday 23rd May at 4pm - Television Coverage TBC

Unconfirmed Kick-Off Times due to TV Matches not having been announced

September

Southampton - H - Currently Saturday 12th September at 3pm
Manchester United - A - Currently Saturday 19th September at 3pm
Everton - H - Currently Saturday 26th September at 3pm

October

Chelsea - A - Currently Saturday 3rd October at 3pm
Brighton & Hove Albion - H - Currently Saturday 17th October at 3pm
Fulham - A - Currently Saturday 24th October at 3pm
Wolverhampton Wanderers - A - Currently Saturday 31st October at 3pm

November

Leeds United - H - Currently Saturday 7th November at 3pm
Burnley - A - Currently Saturday 21st November at 3pm
Newcastle United - A - Currently Saturday 28th November at 3pm

December

West Bromwich Albion - A - Currently Saturday 5th December at 3pm
Tottenham Hotspur - H - Currently Saturday 12th December at 3pm
West Ham United - A - Currently Tuesday 15th December at 7:45pm - will be on Amazon Prime, but, date and time not yet confirmed
Liverpool - H - Currently Saturday 19th December at 3pm
Aston Villa - A - Currently Saturday 26th December at 3pm
Leicester City - H - Currently Monday 28th December at 3pm - will be on Amazon Prime, but, date and time not yet confirmed

January 2021

Sheffield United - H - Currently Saturday 2nd January at 3pm
Arsenal - A - Currently Tuesday 12th January at 7:45pm
Manchester City - A - Currently Saturday 16th January at 3pm
West Ham United - H - Currently Wednesday 27th January at 8pm
Wolverhampton Wanderers - H - Currently Saturday 30th January - 3pm

February

Newcastle United - A - Currently Wednesday 3rd February at 7:45pm
Leeds United - A - Currently Saturday 6th February at 3pm
Burnley - H - Currently Saturday 13th February at 3pm
Brighton & Hove Albion - A - Currently Saturday 20th February at 3pm
Fulham - H - Currently Saturday 27th February at 3pm

March

Tottenham Hotspur - A - Currently Saturday 6th March at 3pm
West Bromwich Albion - H - Currently Saturday 13th March at 3pm
Manchester United - H - Currently Saturday 20th March at 3pm

April

Everton - A - Currently Saturday 3rd April at 3pm
Chelsea - H - Currently Saturday 10th April at 3pm
Southampton - A - Currently Saturday 17th April at 3pm
Leicester City - A - Currently Saturday 24th April at 3pm

May

Manchester City - H - Currently Saturday 1st May at 3pm
Sheffield United - A - Currently Saturday 8th May at 3pm
Aston Villa - H - Currently Wednesday 12th May at 8pm
Arsenal - H - Currently Saturday 15th May at 3pm

Rule Britannia/Land of Hope and Glory

Surprised no one has commented on this to date.

I'm aware of both sides of the argument but to be honest i couldn't be bothered about whether they sing it or not at the last night of the proms.

I'm as patriotic as the next person but isn't it just a load of stuck up toffs waving plastic flags, bobbing up and down?

2020/21 TV Fixture Announcements

So it is looking like all games will be on TV until fans are permitted back in stadiums.

I'm sure more details will be announced soon.

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Bargain or balls up?

Today I bought something on the internet which was advertised as being in a summer sale. This was a bona fide website. The price however was ludicrously low. I have an order confirmation and the amount is pending in my bank account.


Should this not turn out be a hell of a bargain, but a mistake by a webmonkey with the pricing, does anybody know what my legal position is should they decide that it was a mistake?

Ta.

Chant for Eze

Anyone got any ideas?

Tour De France 2020 (29/08/20-20/09/20)

An interesting TDF in store for us all this year for obvious reasons.

The Jumbo-Visma team looks very strong on paper. Ineos also have a strong team despite leaving out Froome and Thomas.
Will it simply be Bernal v Roglic? Or will Carapaz and Dumoulin also have their say? There are plenty of other serious contenders too.
It's a very lumpy parcours this year with not a lot of stages for the sprinters.

And let's not forget that there is a Velogames competition up and running called "Great Big Bike Game XXII" The deadline for submitting a team is Saturday 29th August 13:45 CEST!

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I'll post some links with race info later. Feel free to post other interseting links if you have any!

The Repair Shop

Do any of you watch this? With all the dross that is on TV for me this is a real real jem of a programme. I love that it is about sentimental and not monetary value....to see the faces and the emotion of some of the people when they are reunited with their items is just wonderful. The craftsmanship from these guys is just amazing.

brighton v Chelsea fan test the perfect choice

Brighton v Chelsea has been picked as a fan test event

2500 fans will be allowed to attend the event . Brighton was targeted for this test as the perfect fit. A spokesman said , “we picked Brighton to minimise the risk as most of their fans leave after 70 Minutes of their matches. This will help keep the risk of infection down “.

It was also felt that there would be a good mix of fans as many Brighton season ticket holders actually support other clubs including Chelsea.

A Brighton spokesman said “ we are well prepared, we were used to small crowds as we failed to fill the Withdean . Also the atmosphere will be no different from a normal home game . Also if there is any trouble we are confident that the Sussex police will help “

A Sussex Police spokesman said “We expect any trouble at this game to be caused by Palace fans and we will deal with expected guns knives and bombs appropriately . We will make a further statement on the weapons we find a few days before the game “

Rumour: Ivan Saponjic

Little snippet on Sky sports transfer centre saying Celtic are interested in him and we are keeping tabs on him. Striker from Athletico Madrid.

Path built above DPC

Ok so I’m turning to the BBS for assistance.


My elderly neighbour who lives on her own has asked me for help. Her neighbours have been building an extension to their house and in the process have built a concrete path that sits approx 6 inches above her DPC.

The boundary line to their property is according to the block plan her house wall.

We have contacted the local council who granted the planning permission but they aren’t interested as they say the building works are being signed off by a private company and passed their details on. After contacting the private company they aren’t interested either saying they only look at the building works on plan but not the pathway.

She unfortunately doesn’t have legal cover with her home insurances.

We had a damp company come over on Monday to check the property and found it free from damp which is expected at only built mid eighties.
The report from them has just come through stating

‘Further to your recent request, our Surveyor ***** inspected the flank wall externally of the above property on 25th August 2020 and noted that the new path has been laid at a higher level and is bridging the damp proof course.
We recommend therefore that the height of the path is reduced to 150mm below the damp proof course.’

We are planning to speak to the owner tomorrow showing the report and requesting the works are done immediately. If this fails and doesn’t get done what are my next options?

I’ve attached the block plan elderly lady lives at 27 and the works are going on at 28.

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Rumour: Messi

He likes red and blue?
Croydon and Barcelona......same same when you get down to it.

Sky sports sack trio

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Southampton not GAO?

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Not Glad All Over on the South coast.
According to the Grauniad Southampton are needing to change their shirt sponsor having already sold shirts with the LD Sports logo on them.
No reason given.
Very odd methinks.

Nathan Ferguson

Interesting comments by RH on Nathan Ferguson . Has not done any real training with the squad , still to do any physical training as in tackling , twisting and turning . Waiting for Medical team to say when they are confident he can join in training but do not want to risk damaging knee . My take was that it will be quite a while before we see him in first team .

Discussion: Messi

Ok, Messi wants to leave Barca.

One way to get him to come to Palace (short of rohypnol & kidnap)...

Get him to buy Blitzer and Harris’ stake and we kill two birds with one stone ! :lux::lux::lux: He can help turn us into a global brand and profit from his equity ownership of the club.

We can name the new stand after him.

Has he not heard we are the sleeping giant of South London with a catchment area of 1 million fans yada yada yada...:p

Messi

Apparently told Barcelona he wants to go.

Wasn't stupid enough to put this in the transfer forum :D

Where do we think he’s going?

Rumour: Emile Smith Rowe

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NO statue but a painting at least :-)

Thought I'd hail Palace's all time highest appearance maker by doing an oil painting of him. No idea where its going to go but enjoyed doing it:p

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Wayne Hennessey in Wales squad yet again

Wayne Hennessey has, yet again, been selected for the Wales squad, despite his limited club appearances.

Currently on 89 caps for Wales.

He must be doing something right!

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Harry Maguire trial

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Trial is underway in Mykonos.

Quite an interesting account, claims and counter claims happening. Pretty crazy stuff with the defendants claiming Maguire's sister was injected with something by two 'Albanian men' and fainted immediately. Also claiming the police kicked Harry in the leg saying, "Your career is over."

The prosecution are alledging that Maguire said to the Greek police, "Do you know who I am? I am the captain of Manchester United, I am very rich, I can give you money, I can pay you, please let us go."

An absolute circus of wanker proportions.

Barry Pierce RIP

I have just been informed that sadly Barry Pierce passed away earlier this month, not sure about the actual date but he would have been 86 on the 13th.

Barry signed for Palace in August 1955 from Truro City (he was born in Liverpool) and made 93 appearances (27 goals) over the next four seasons then moved on to Millwall in May 1959.

Usually found at Inside Right position he also scored a hat-trick against Brentford in a FA Cup tie in December 1956

He later played for York City and Exeter City.

Thoughts are with his family and friends at this sad time.

Live Com and Updates: Crystal Palace v Oxford United KO 17:30 Palace TV

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Speculation: Isaac Hayden

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Move back to London could be attractive for him. Not an immediate area we need reinforcements in but brings experience, lowers the average age and could allow us to free up some wages by being able to cover a few positions.

Thoughts ?

Suggestion: Louie Sibley

18 year old at Derby

I think they are hard up

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Best Badge in the league

We won something !!!!!

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Mate sent me this so sorry about the facebook thing but I have no idea how to find the orginal

Yaya sanogo

I can’t remember (someone will know) if he played for warnock whilst he was at palace but ...
SANOGO SET FOR MIDDLESBROUGH MOVE

Former Arsenal striker Yaya Sanogo is close to joining Middlesbrough.

The 27-year-old is a free agent after leaving Toulouse last month.

Sanogo visited the Middlesbrough training ground last week and would become Neil Warnock’s second signing, following defender Grant Hall.

Warnock missed out on Kieffer Moore, who signed for Cardiff instead - but is hoping to tie up a deal for Sanogo instead.

1990/91 season - game by game

I thought it might be a bit of fun for old farts like to me to take an extended walk down memory lane and reminisce about the seminal 1990/91 season game by game. Alternatively this could die on its arse if no-one is interested but let’s see. The theory is that I will post up a brief summary of each game a day or two before the 30th anniversary date (hard to believe it’s all 30 years ago), and see what reminiscences people have.

Brief context – this was easily the most successful season in the club’s history with a comfortable third place finish and we were in with a realistic shout of winning the bloody thing until a tonking at the hands of eventual champions Arsenal in late February (spoiler alert). We also won the ZDS Trophy, admittedly something of a Mickey Mouse competition but still fantastic to see us winning at Wembley a year after the FA Cup final heartbreak. 1990/91 was certainly the ‘Zenith’ for this team which Steve Coppell had assembled, a collection of cast-offs and lower league bargains alongide a few astute bigger money signings to strengthen in key areas. From memory, we had brought in three players over the summer. John Humphrey came in at right back to replace the popular John Pemberton, who was shunted off to Sheffield United. Eric Young (or ‘Eric Old’ as some Palace fans labelled the 30 year old) arrived to partner his old Wimbledon mate Andy Thorn in the heart of the defence. And another Wimbledon old boy Glyn Hodges was signed to add some creative flair (or so we thought).

From a personal perspective I had turned 18 in the few days between the FA Cup final first game and replay, and after having spent the early part of the summer immersing myself in Italia 90 and the Madchester vibe, I started my first proper job at the beginning of August in the AMP building adjacent to East Croydon station. So the world was my oyster with proper money in my pocket for the first time.

On we go to the first game then, which was on 25 August 1990 away to Luton Town. Again hard to believe now, but Luton were considered a reasonably established top flight outfit then, having gained promotion under David Pleat in the early 80s and stayed put. They’d even won the League Cup in 1988. The game was played in front of a pathetic crowd of 9,583, caused by the ban on away fans which Luton’s extremist right-winger chairman David Evans had imposed. A number of Palace fans did thought infiltrate the stadium, as could be seen when the goals were shown on TV.

The match ended in a 1-1 draw, our goal coming from debutant Eric Young (from memory, a towering header from a corner??). This was deemed a satisfactory result in our opening game as we looked to build on our 15th place finish (out of 22) in the previous season.

Over to you – what memories of this game, and what were your thoughts and feelings as the new season got underway?

Betting Masters CLC 26

..BM CLC (Champions league cup) is a longer version of the monthly BBS betting masters..running from August to December..don't delay join today..

Previous winners:
Champions league winner 06/07: Ian Hart
Champions league winner 07/08-1: Finbar
Champions league winner 07/08-2: Jim Cannons Moustache
Champions league winner 2009: Finbar
Champions league winner 2010: Jim Cannons Moustache
Champions league winner 10/11-1: kayjay
Champions league winner 10/11-2: Finbar
Champions league winner 11/12-CH8: StuNick
Champions league winner 11/12-2: CLC9: NO1FAN
Champions league winner 12/13, CLC10: Swanny32
Champions league winner 12/13, CLC11: Gooders
Champions league winner 13/14, CLC12: Little Fozzie
Champions league winner 13/14: CLC13: Stigma
Champions league winner CLC14: ardeo
Champions league winner CLC15: Funk Butter
Champions league winner CLC16: PoolKing
Champions league winner CLC17: Finbar
Champions league winner CLC18: gjohnk
Champions league winner CLC19: gjohnk
Champions league winner CLC20: StuNick
Champions league winner CLC21: gjohnk
Champions league winner CLC22: Stigma
Champions league winner CLC23: StuNick
Champions league winner CLC24: Little Fozzie
Champions league winner CLC25: StuNick

UEFA Cup winner 06/07: Gav The Hamster
UEFA Cup winner 07/08-1: Gav The Hamster
UEFA Cup winner 07/08-2: Tor
UEFA Cup winner 2009: Funk Butter
UEFA Cup winner 2010: Funk Butter
UEFA Cup winner 10/11-1: Funk Butter
UEFA Cup winner 10/11-2: StuNick
UEFA Cup winner 11/12-CH8: housey100
UEFA Cup winner 11/12-2-CLC9: Ian Hart
UEFA Cup winner 12/13, CLC10: JamTheEagle
UEFA Cup winner 12/13, CLC11: Scoopster
UEFA Cup winner 13/14, CLC12: Stigma
UEFA Cup winner 13/14, CLC13: Bellyman
UEFA Cup winner CLC14: PoolKing
UEFA Cup winner CLC15: Flat Noodle
UEFA Cup winner CLC16: Little Fozzie
UEFA Cup winner CLC17: Little Fozzie
UEFA Cup winner CLC18: €pfc
UEFA Cup winner CLC19: Funk Butter
UEFA Cup winner CLC20: Louis
UEFA Cup winner CLC21: eagles073
UEFA Cup winner CLC22: StuNick
UEFA Cup winner CLC23: Little Fozzie
UEFA Cup winner CLC24: PoolKing
UEFA Cup winner CLC25: eagles073

Proposed schedule (format depending on the number of participants).
1.stage:
Schedule
Round 1 (Weeks 36-37)
Round 2 (38-39)
Round 3 (40-41)
Round 4 (42-43)
Round 5 (44-45)
Round 6 (46-47)

2.stage: (48/49)
3.stage: (50/51)
4.stage (if needed 52/53)

BM CLC25 will go from August 2020 to December 2020.

15 bets pr match (2 weeks pr match).

Two matches against each-other. Home/away rule; Away teams bets have to finish before midnight on Saturday night.

Minimum odds limit 1.2.

We are mainly using BM rules, that means for example that;

Scoring consists of total winnings and is inclusive of 10 point stake i.e. someone bets on a 6/4 horse and it wins their score becomes 25 (15 points profits plus the 10 pt stake) There is no score for any bets not used. Losing bets are scored as zero, not -10.
Any bet from an exchange bookie will have a 4% commission (on the winnings), if nothing else is explicitly stated in the post.

Players must quote where they're getting their prices.

After a bet has been posted up, one is not allowed to edit it..

In-play betting is not allowed. With exception for events that goes over several days; For example after 2nd round of a golf tournament has been completed or before play starts on the final day of test cricket.

The contestants will be seeded for the group draw (based on overall performances in BM competitions).

For a bet to be valid, it must be placed before the published start time.

Remember fair play. Duplicating you’re opponents bets are not allowed.

The bets must be possible to do in real life.

Recommend a Youtube channel.

Over lockdown, I became obsessed with Youtube, mainly because I was all TV'd out and short videos kept my attention.

Weirdly, not being a fisherman The Fish Locker has me hooked like a bitch (see what I did there)


Also I love Aquaholic

Superyacht captain

All just sample videos.

I have loads more that I have started to subscribe to as well, from lots of different genes.

Anyone want to share their favourite channels?

Suggestion: Origi

Linked with Leeds and apparently available. ‘Liverpool cast-off’ etc. but would we take him at £20m? I like him a lot, scored some huge goals.

The End of the Republican Party

As a balance to the DNC thread, a great read from the author of several excellent works on Lincoln, about the transformation of the GOP to a right wing evangelical sect starting with Nixon/Goldwater and culminating in Trump. Longish read but well worth it to understand the forces behind the current state of the right in US politics.

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Match Updates: Champions League Final 2020: PSG v BAYERN MUNICH

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High Score - Netflix Games Series

I'm part way into a new Netflix documentary series called, "High Score" which tracks the arcade and home gaming history from Pacman though to Doom.

Quote:

High Score is a documentary series about the golden age of video games, when legends – from Pac-Man to Doom – were brought to life. Through ingenuity and sheer force of will, computer pioneers and visionary artists from around the globe spawned the iconic worlds of Space Invaders, Final Fantasy, Street Fighter II, Mortal Kombat, Sonic the Hedgehog, Madden NFL, and beyond. Without rules or roadmaps, players and innovators alike pushed the limits of money to be made, rivals to be crushed, and hearts to be won. This is the story of the brains behind the pixels and how their unmatched innovation built a multi-billion dollar industry – almost by accident.

It's really well made with great graphics and plenty of nostalgia. Recommended :p

Rumour: Jean-Phillipe Mateta

“Meanwhile Palace are putting French forward Jean-Phillipe Mateta on their striker standby list.

Palace are working overtime on landing a top number nine but they are also keeping their interest in Mateta going at German club Mainz.

Mateta has had a prolific time in the Bundesliga and could be available for around £15 million.“

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Raising a kid in south London

My little boy has just turned 5 and has started going to a (nice) primary school in Anerley. Recently I’ve been giving some thought as to the longer term life plan.

I personally didn’t grow up in South London so only know it as a fully grown adult. I love living here, it’s rough round the edges but it’s home.

But I’m increasingly aware of all the bad shit that happens. The crime levels, gang stuff, drugs, knife violence, poverty etc. Seeing the way some of the teenage shitbags behave around here doesn’t help with that perception.

Does anyone who has experience raising kids in south London, or of being a kid raised in south London, have any advice? Am I just being a typical Middle class wimpish daily mail type moaning about nothing, or is there genuinely something to worry about? Would you raise a kid in south London or would you get out to somewhere safer/ with a better quality of life if you could?

TIA

Rumour: Aaron ramsey

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Happy big 40 FourtyTwo

HB Oli. Have a good one :p

Cardi B - WAP

I can see St Winifred’s School Choir getting back together just to cover this one.

Latest Record Internet Speed (178 Tbps)

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Working with two companies, Xtera and KDDI Research, the research team led by Dr Lidia Galdino (UCL Electronic & Electrical Engineering), achieved a data transmission rate of 178 terabits a second (178,000,000 megabits a second) – a speed at which it would be possible to download the entire Netflix library in less than a second. The record, which is double the capacity of any system currently deployed in the world, was achieved by transmitting data through a much wider range of colours of light, or wavelengths, than is typically used in optical fibre. (Current infrastructure uses a limited spectrum bandwidth of 4.5THz, with 9THz commercial bandwidth systems entering the market, whereas the researchers used a bandwidth of 16.8THz.) The benefit of the technique is that it can be deployed on already existing infrastructure cost-effectively, by upgrading the amplifiers that are located on optical fibre routes at 40-100km intervals. (Upgrading an amplifier would cost £16,000, while installing new optical fibres can, in urban areas, cost up to £450,000 a kilometre.)

Contract extensions

Schluup, Kelly, mcarthur and Henderson have signed new deals

Rumour: Mark grujic

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Behind closed doors: Kingstonian - U23 - Saturday 22 August - 14:00

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Suggestion: Musa Barrow

He's already got the shirts!

Match Updates: Europa League Final 2020: Sevilla v Inter Milan

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Rumour has it the eternally disgruntled Conte will walk from Inter after this match.

Plandemic

Anyone watched this? If you can find it on the inter web?

Thoughts?

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Conspiracy theories.............

Fixtures 20/21

Home to Southampton

Rumour: James Scott

Can't see another thread so...

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Fourth fav’s to go down

2/1

Only West Brom, Fulham and Villa are a shorter price

Brighton are 7/2 as are Leeds

Navalny poisoned

Apparently Navalny (the Russian opposition leader) has been poisoned.

Disillusionment Reigns

A poll out by YouGov two days ago is pretty alarming, and shows just what cynicism and disillusionment is out there among the electorate.

It also goes some way to explaining why Labour has not made up sufficient ground yet to be ahead in the Westminster voting intention polling.

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28% thinking the Tories who have had ten years of incompetence on display and in practice, are comparatively incompetent, is quite understandable, but 28% also thinking that Labour out of power for the last ten years is also incompetent, is weird.

It also means that around 10% of those 28% are still willing to vote Tory in the Westminster intention vote despite thinking they are incompetent, likewise for Labour. That leaves 8% for either party to convince otherwise and win their vote in the next election. The Tories under Johnson and Cummings, are currently going south in this respect, and I think Starmer will benefit from this over the next four years.

Septic Tanks

We know how much the BBS loves shit puns, so thought I'd float this open goal.

In amongst the punnery, it would also be nice to know if anyone has any experience with replacing a septic tank. We're buying a place in the sticks in Gloucestershire that has a knackered tank which will need replacing. Serves what will be our place and the neighbour's cottage. Online search and a couple of calls to local companies has left me even more bewildered. I don't want to piss all our budget up the wall, so any advice appreciated.

(Yes, this is genuine :supergrin:)

Ben Cross RIP

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Rumour: Jamal Lewis Summer 2020

Exclusive: Crystal Palace set sights on signing £20m-valued Norwich City player

Crystal Palace have set their sights on signing Norwich City defender Jamal Lewis this summer, Football Insider understands.

The 22-year-old is in high demand among English sides this summer but the Canaries are holding out for a fee of around £20million if they are to let him go.

A source at Selhurst Park has told Football Insider that the Eagles, who made a move for the left-back during the January transfer window, have reignited their interest and are plotting another raid of Carrow Road.

Premier League champions Liverpool have already had an offer of £8million rising to £10m knocked back for the Northern Ireland international.

However, Norwich are not prepared to let Lewis depart on the cheap and insisted the Reds would have to double their offer if they were to sell up.

The defender, who came through the youth ranks at the Norfolk-based outfit, has already played 100 times for the Canaries and was a mainstay in the Premier League last season.

He made 28 top-flight appearances and was one of the club’s standout performers despite their relegation back to the Championship.

His current contract, which was signed back in 2018, is set to keep him tied down at Carrow Road until 2023 and as such Norwich know they are in a strong negotiating position in terms of a transfer.

Palace manager Roy Hodgson is in the market for a new left-back this summer as competition to current senior star Patrick van Aanholt.

The 29-year-old played 29 times for the Eagles last season, with natural centre-back Jairo Reidewald used as a makeshift full-back in his absence.

It is understood that Hodgson views Lewis as someone who could offer the same attacking outlet as van Aanholt next season and offer real competition to the Dutch flyer.

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Suggestion: Tom Davies

Being linked with Newcastle for a fee of £12M. This is one I personally think we should be all over, he's a great little player whenever I've seen him. We're crying out for a center midfielder who can maintain possession better, a couple of good seasons and he could be worth treble that £12M in this crazy market. And he's only just turned 22.

Rumour: Tiemoue bakayoko

Isn’t this what we’ve all been waiting for all transfer window so far ? Being linked with a cdm ......

PALACE XTRA Newspaper
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Newspaper Crystal Palace and Fulham have emerged as contenders for Chelsea’s Tiémoué Bakayoko [Calciomercato] #C

Behind closed doors: Tue 25 August Oxford United Home

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Joel Carter new coach

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Interesting read and nice to stitch Millwall

TV Matches

Premier league matches will not be shown across the board as they were to complete the season 2019/20

Matches will revert to those selected by the TV companies as in previous seasons which means few Palace matches .

With fans still locked out we will not get to see the games bar maybe unreliable streams or 5 minute clips at the end of Motd

DNC

Not easy to have a virtual NC without it looking like a telethon or extended TV ad.

Fairly clear that Biden is unfit for office and it's Trump vs Harris for President.

Fox and CNN are equally biased in their respective camps and there is no bipartisan US broadcaster.

The willingness of US political figures to stare in the camera and tell bare faced lies is interesting.

UK politicians will skirt and evade difficult topics but on the US lying seems accepted.

Michelle Obama was talking about the terrible " children in cages at the Mexican border " situation.

FACT CHECK : These cages were built by her husband's administration and the upsetting photographs were taken while he was in office.

There will be similar BS coming from the GOP as well

Max?

Didn't see him in the training video ?

Driveway quote

Absolute novice on this kind of stuff guys so could do with some advice. Have got a driveway quote covering the following...

-64sqm driveway to be block-paved using Bradstone Monksbridge pavers. Inset border of a different colour (one block thick)
-Fences run on either side including gravel boards and concrete posts (drive is 8m long each side in total). First fence panel 6ft on either side, all other panels 4 foot. Looking at contemporary timber fence panels so slightly more expensive than standard ones.
-Acco drains installed across the full 8m width of the house and garage which will run in to a soakaway dug 5m from the house


Total I’ve been quoted is £7,500, is that reasonable?:confused:

Type Faces

I'm a little bit anorak regarding type faces. My favourite is a Baskerville capital Q. Least favourite and an abomination is Comic Sans. How does typography affect you? Oh and btw I completely understand if it's a complete yawn.

Rumour: Mattie Pollock

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Speculation: Ivan Toney

I see the other Toney thread is closed for some reason but Sky are reporting 4 Premier League clubs, plus Celtic, are looking at him in addition to Brentford. Given the previous speculation, and the sort of players we are looking at, I would be surprised if we aren’t looking at him?

Behind closed doors: Tonbridge Angels U23 Tue 18 Aug

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Gutted could of had a beer or two and stayed at my sisters.

The Day my Foot Doctor met Peter Wall

Apologies in advance if this comes across as a ‘guess you had to be there’ story. It’s just that in these strange times where once normal folk are walking the streets mumbling to themselves, I find myself, at the most inappropriate of times breaking out in a little chuckle that raises the eyebrows of those in my presence.
It’s a waste of time trying to explain the reason for these minor outbursts to Americans, without them calling for the men in the white coats, or giving me the business card of their latest therapist. So I’ve come to the conclusion that in order to move on I must share the story of this incident with the good old Memory Laneists, who will understand it and maybe even see a slight bit of nostalgic humour in it .
A couple of weeks ago I had a minor foot injury and made an afternoon appointment with a foot doctor. Prior to this I was on a very unsuccessful clean up mission of my apartment. Before mission was accomplished I came across a few old Palace scrap books, which meant I stopped what I was doing and started reading them and getting all nostalgic. The cello tape had yellowed as had a lot of the match reports and pictures. A few of the pictures were loose with the tape still around them. I’d removed them about ten years ago when I attempted to become all techo and started trying to scan some pics on the BBS. I think my success rate was one in four. Anyway one of the pictures that was very much the worse for wear was one from 1973 of Alan Whittle and Peter Wall, in their civvie clothes, taken at some Palace function. Even with the utmost care the cutting fell apart when I touched it. It split in two almost perfectly which makes me think I bent it years ago in order to just scan the picture of one of them. A few more loose articles fell to the floor and before I had time to sort them out I remembered my appointment. I rushed around a bit to get ready and because of the sore foot I couldn’t wear socks so I stuck on a pair of flip flops.
At the doctors, his assistant, a small East European lady asked me to remove my footwear. When I did this, she asked me to raise the sore foot. A sudden look of alarm came over her face. “You have something stuck to your foot,” she said. Until she said that, I hadn’t noticed or felt anything. She grabbed at the piece of paper, which, with the help of a still clinging piece of 50 year old cello tape had stuck to the sole of my foot. “What is this?”she asked. I looked at the picture and there was the great Peter Wall staring right at me. I told her it was Peter Wall, and explained that I must have walked on him and he’d stuck to my foot. For unknown reasons she wasn’t impressed with the jaundiced picture of Peter Wall and didn’t even acknowledge that she’d ever heard of him. Instead of comparing notes of his performances in the Claret and Blue and the Red and blue she unceremoniously squashed the cutting up and threw poor Peter Wall in the bin. Then to add insult to injury she started spraying disinfectant everywhere, including on my throbbing foot. This woman obviously wasn’t at Stamford Bridge in 76, or ever saw Peter superbly marshal the Palace defense as a sweeper, or from the left back position, mark the best right wingers of the era out of the game. If she did she’d have shown a bit more compassion. Then again, in her defense she was only about 30.
I don’t know where in the world Peter Wall is now, but I wonder how he’d react if he knew a picture of himself from nearly 50 years ago, was stuck to the sole of a big smelly foot in a New York City doctor’s office and then tossed into a garbage bin by a glorified toe washer who would never have been able to lace his shoes.

Sorry for the ramble, but like I said “I guess you had to be there.”

Best place to sell Palace programmes

Hi All,

Had a clear out and found my programmes from 1984 to 1996 (for some reason I cant find 1985). Where is the best place to sell them?

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Behind closed doors: Charlton friendly

Richard Cawley just confirmed there will be a pre season game between Charlton and Palace

Behind closed doors: Brondby Home Saturday 5th September 3pm

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Fixture leak: Villa home??????

hi guys

i just saw some leaked fixtures from the opening day, it came from a twitter account with 7 followers so I think that indicates this could be legit info, on top of that Asda's online sports platform shared an article including the tweet.

Based on these leaked fixtures how many goals do you think we will score from set pieces over the coming season?

Chelsea v Brighton

Crystal Palace v Aston Villa

Everton v Arsenal

Fulham v Manchester United

Leicester v Newcastle

Manchester City v Liverpool

Southampton v Burnely

Tottenham v Leeds

West Brom v West Ham

Wolves v Sheffield United

Belarus

Svetlana Tikhanovskaya is the legitimate president of Belarus

Lukashenko is a murderer

Pass it on

Fixture leak: City away??????

Apparently the first round of fixtures has been leaked.

If correct we have city away. Best fixtures to open with are the tough ones. Always early shocks and getting those games out of the way before they get into full stride is ideal.



Full ‘leaked’ 20/21 opening day

Brighton vs Sheffield United

Chelsea vs Southampton

Everton vs Fulham

Leeds United vs Newcastle United

Manchester City vs Crystal Palace

Manchester United vs Arsenal

Tottenham vs Aston Villa

West Brom vs Burnley

West Ham vs Liverpool

Wolves vs Leicester
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The Premier League is rigged

It’s the blatantly obvious elephant in the room that even a young child can see and yet is never talked about in the media:

In the Premier League, economic might determines sporting achievement. Plain and simple.

We all know it and yet the farce is allowed to continue where the system is totally rigged in favour of the super rich. By assessing every sides transfer spend and wage budgets, you can nigh on predict Premier League final positions within about three places every season.

And yet managers like Guardiola are lorded as ‘greats’ and tactical geniuses despite being able to assemble a squad, which in effect are a collection of the best players in the world. He has spent £900m at City and has failed to even get them into a Champions League semi final. Success? Does that deserve the title of being lorded as a great manager? What would Hodgson or Wilder have achieved with that budget? Be surprised if either didn’t enjoy similar domestic success as the ‘great’ Pep.

I’ve said it many times before, but the Premier League is like having a 100m sprint race where six of the eight competitors have to run with their hands tied behind their backs. The other two able bodied runners obviously finish first and second and wheel away in triumph getting all the cheers, congratulations, plaudits and prizes, deemed the best in their field and talked reverently in terms of sporting achievement. That would be madness eh? Welcome to the Premier League. What a fantastic message that sends out to society. Being super rich is more impressive and rewarding than ability, talent, hard work and loyalty.

In a fair and true sporting competition, there would be a limit to how many players above a certain amount of transfer fee can be bought by one club, and a limit on the average wage. Never going to happen is it?

In the absence of that ever happening, I think there should be a real league table produced and publicly distributed, where budgets are taken into account up against sporting results. Then we can really assess who have really achieved in the truest sporting sense.

Congratulations Sheffield United! The TRUE Premier League Champions of 2019/20.

Fire Pits

Looking for opinions on these.

We live in a smoke exclusion zone but apparently these things are OK. :confused:

Matey three doors down has one and it's stinks everyone's house out, why are they allowed in a suburban areas? No doubt he is burning any old shit!

What say you...

Crystal Ball: How Many Goals Will We Score Next Season?

about 15 for me :veryangry:veryangry:veryangry:veryangry:veryangry :veryangry:veryangry:veryangry:veryangry:veryangry :veryangry:

VJ Day 75th Anniversary

No thread today?

Anyone have any memories from loved ones who served?

Fantasy Premier League BBS League 20/21

It’s that time again already folks!

After what seemed a never ending 19/20 season, the FPL site has launched again 4 weeks before the 20/21 season starts on 12th Sept.

Seems a little strange it’s so early as no fixtures are even released yet but anyway you can start some early tinkering with new prices, players and position changes to get your head around!

The CPFC BBS League is up and running again - if you played last season you should automatically join.

If you are new, simply use the link below and you'll be added automatically after you've entered the game.

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League Code: 23khw8

I’ve also created a head to head league, not sure how popular this is but if you fancy it please use link below or enter league code -

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League Code: 7ggd4t

Notable position changes:

Aubameyang ➡ MID
Delph ➡ MID
Richarlison ➡ FWD
Fernandinho ➡ DEF
Rashford ➡ MID
Martial ➡ FWD
Ritchie ➡ MID
Lundstram ➡ MID
Dier ➡ DEF
Antonio ➡ FWD
Jota ➡ MID

Also noticed game week deadlines are now 90 mins before instead of 1 hour - presumably to avoid any team news leaks.

Best of luck!

Crawley u23 friendly

Behind closed doors today, i wonder if we will get a team sheet. A couple of trialists perhaps?

Can't get pussy

My daughter's cat has got himself trapped in my neighbour's garage and we reckon he's been there since tea-time Thursday. Now it looks like the neighbour has gone away for the weekend.

We can see the cat through the glass-panelled door by looking over our fence, but there's no clear way to get to him other than by climbing into next door's garden and breaking in. We've tried contacting the neighbour, to no avail.

Anyone know the legalities of this? Cat is still alive as of 7.15am, but we don't know for how much longer. :(

God this looks terrible!

New on Apple TV…. Filmed at Selhurst Park.

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Proviosnal Driving license insurance

Hi All,
I have a car which I have insured and added my wife as a named driver.

We phoned up my insurance company and said that we wanted to add my daughter to the insurance, but they said that they won’t due to the insurance group.

We they got a quote from a company for provisional insurance – all good.

We phoned another company to get a quote and they said that they would only create a policy for my daughter as the main driver and for us to be named driver or one of us to be the main driver and the others be named driver etc and said that we should cancel the other insurance. They wouldn’t allow us to start two policies, one for us and another one for my daughter, this is the sister company to my insurer.

From what I have read, it is not illegal to have two policies but there can be complication if you have to make a claim but can’t see anything concreate on where we stand we just take out the additional provisional insurance with the other company.

Any advice?

Behind closed doors: Millwall (Away)

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Behind closed doors: Crawley Town - U23's

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Rumour: Siriki Dembele*

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Discussion: Jack Butland

Looks like he’s a available for £8m, whilst VG is first choice having someone who could actually put pressure on the No.1 rather than having Heno on the bench would make sense.

Speculation: Will We Actually Sign Someone

not for me

Just saw this - WOW!

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Amazing! They had spent over 100 years waiting to win the cup. Won 3-2.

BBS Legal Beagles

Arrived in Greece last week.

Had a tear up at the airport with Enterprise who insisted on taking card details to cover some kind of guarantee? Car hire and extra cover insurance was already pre-paid.

No damage to the car (yet!) but expecting more grief from them when returning home Saturday or maybe get stiffed for something suspect once I'm back home.

I can't NOT sign for handing back the motor but would like to add a caveat maybe something like 'without prejudice' but unsure if that carries any weight legally?

Advice welcome :p

Fixture Schedule Database

Please find attached a run-through of all Premier League, FA Cup, League Cup, Champions League, Euorpa League and scheduled International Breaks for the 2020/21 Season.

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Jaroslaw Jach - coming back?

With three of our centre-backs injured, does anyone know if Jaroslaw Jach is coming back from his loan?

Flight Simulator

Anyone else excited for the new Flight Sim game due out tomorrow (and on Game Pass ultimate which I have :lux::lux:)

Apparently it is going to dynamically download scenery from the internet, 2 petabytes in total, as you fly over it so the detail of the world should be pretty good.

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Your Three favourite scenic views?

Must be getting old, because an old vista has been playing on my mind recently. Which got me to thinking about what my favourite or most impressive views have been over my 6 decades.

So I'll keep it fairly brief and go ahead with mine. With an small explanation as to why.

Sydney Harbour first for me. I knew it was going to be something else, and generally when you think that it's not quite as good as you expect. However Sydney Harbour totally blew me away the first time I clapped eyes on it. I never thought a large size city could produce such beauty, with the Icons of Sydney Harbour Bridge and the Opera house as focal points. Just breathtaking for me. Then the expanse of numerous bays, trees and houses...I think I was shaking when I saw it. It's impossible to find a photo that does it true justice.

Uluru, from a distance of say 5K's is a feast for the eyes, it really does change colour at different times of day. It really does feel spiritual to the point of being pilgrimage like in the way you have to travel to get there. Nothing quite like it anywhere else.

The Walk Over London Bridge, From London Bridge Station to the City. I still close my eyes and see it. Twas part of my routine for almost 10 years. Outside of the rush hour as well. I never took if for granted even at the young age of 16 it impressed me and It's still ingrained in my mind, makes one fully realise they are a Sarf Londoner that walk.


Special mention to the City of Hobart from he Top of Mount Wellington... although there are lots of mountain city views around the world like that. Still it is impressive. The only photo that does any of the above justice is the Mount Wellington/Hobart one.

Gary Lineker

Never quite understood why BBC seem so keen to pay Gary Lineker so much money to present MOTD , etc . Any decent presenter could do same job at a fraction of the cost , doubt if viewing figures would be affected . BBC are constantly saying they are short of money but then say they have to pay top money to keep best ( ????? ) people .
Read this article today and it does some up Lineker to me , trying to take some sort of moral stance on whatever issue is the topic of the day.

In the TalkSport interview , the MP said

'It's the liberal left again - virtue signalling - trying to say all the right things, trying to tweet out the right messages on social media to look popular.


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Rumour: Andre ayew

This must be one of the joke links we,ll see this transfer window ...... Crystal Palace are looking to sign Swansea City player Andre Ayew PSG are also reportedly interested the fee Swansea want is at least £5 million 🦢 #PSG #CPFC #SCFC To view the link you have to Register or Login

Wow!

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High Speed train crash in Scotland

3 dead, looks bad. :(

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i know some of our current and ex members are connected to the railways up there, lets hope they are ok.

A level results out tomorrow. (Sort of)

My daughters A level results are due out tomorrow.

Seems like the government have made a complete fiasco out of the whole thing.

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Anybody else in the same boat this year? Do you have confidence your kids will get what they deserve?

Suggestion: Grand plan

Have got halfway through this type of post a few times but never quite finished it, instead deleting it. Rather than just list the transfer names, instead musing on what shape and how we might play next season and the gaps we have. I have got the impression from things Roy has mentioned that he fancies us in what I would call the 'Liverpool shape'. A 433 that is Defensively sound with 4 at the back focused mainly on protecting the centre (i.e. strong CBs with a midfield 3 in front of them that can provide a shield when under pressure) but then in front of them 3 forwards all able to break away and score. Offensively we would capitalise on breaks and when on top use the full backs to provide the width and crosses pushing high while the midfield probe etc but providing cover. The higher we can defend the better against the weaker teams but capable of dropping deeper if we need to (the realities of life in the PL). The midfield 3 would most likely comprise 1 supplementing the attack more often than the other 2. This could well be Schlupp and (don't take the mick) he showed some nice signs when he dropped into the hole behind the striker a few times before his injury. His ability to strike the ball and willingness to get into the box/shoot make me optimistic.

The quality of the front 3 being key as they have to be able to hold up the ball and also create openings. We cannot continue with players that struggle to take or create chances.

So how does our current squad fit that? I doubt we can do this in one season and suspect there will be compromises galore but we have to fix the lack of goals in the side and so every player coming in has to have goals on their resume.

Off we go.

Goalkeepers
Guaita
Hennessey
Henderson (or a swap)

GKs are OK but ideally we would swap Henderson for a high potential keeper but not a priority today.

Full Backs
Ward
Aanholt
Mitchell
Ferguson

Bit nervous that it might prove a season too early for Tyrick to be starting regularly and so hoping Patrick makes an early return and stays fit. Having only seen glimpses of Ferguson I am not sure if he is right or not. Let's hope so. Both he and Ward can play right or left and so that protects Tyrick if the wheel was to 'fall off'. Will these offer enough of a threat? PVA is spot on but..... a risk we have to take I think.

OK - so now it gets tricky because we can't sustain/afford so many CBs. So I would jettison 2 of them and move Kouyate back to a CB role. I have kept JT and MS but TBH it could as easily have been the others. If we had scope I would look for a young CB quality prospect to add for development but don't think we have the £ unless they are a really cheap gamble.

Centre Backs
Tomkins
Sakho
Kelly
Kouyate

Midfielders
Milivojević
McArthur
McCarthy
Reidewald
Schlupp
New

The new midifelder would need to be a quality first pick candidate with goals and assists but not another Meyer/Ozil-like defensively. i.e. they need to be able to do the work and win the ball in the PL etc. i.e. - we can't support an all out number 10 without upgrading a lot more other positions

Forwards (in a 3)
Ayew
Benteke
Zaha
New CF
New WRF
New WLF

If Wilf leaves then he also needs replacing but with someone with goals in their locker.

Re the new slots. I don't think Pierrick will be ready for this season and so He may well be the 7th option dependent on loans and available cash. We just have to have a goal scoring option in the middle and two more wide forwards again with goals.

That controversially means that we should be moving on

Cahill, Dann, Meyer, Wickham and Townsend.

It's not that I don't rate or like these players, more that they don't really fit and keeping them is a compromise. TBH it's harsh on Dann, Cahill and Andros. I suspect we will end up keeping Townsend but he won't score the goals we need as a wide forward. If we keep Meyer as well I think we will struggle without losing a forward to supplement the midfield offensive quality. I know Meyer has a lot of 'fans' on here but after 21 starts, 25 more appearances and 3000 mins of opportunity we needed to have seen more than we have to keep him. 'He plays 'nice' with Wilf isn't enough. If Wickham is seriously fit etc. he might make one of those slots if we are short of cash but I suspect it's one season too late now.

I doubt we will get the quality in these purchases that I would like and see us picking up Niasse and Hendrick because they are both out of contract. TBF I doubt Salah, Firmino and Mane would come would they?

I doubt Wilf will stay and I am worried if he does in a way. Primarily because he simply isn't himself and unless his head shifts 180 degrees i can't see anything good for either of us. Also as a wide forward, neither he nor Andros attempt to get into the box enough. They have spent their careers hanging wide and don't appear to be able to adapt.

The other changes will be left to next year.

One way of looking at it and obviously there are oodles of others.

Rumour: Glen kamara

Here’s another one to the pile of random links we get I won’t hold my breath ......

PALACE XTRA Newspaper
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Newspaper Dynamo Kiev and Dinamo Moscow are both lining up bids for Rangers midfielder Glen Kamara this summer.

Crystal Palace, Sheffield United, Everton, Newcastle, Southampton, Norwich and Brentford are also believed to be interested.

[90 Min] #CPFC

Speculation: Glen Kamara

Apparently us and and a host of clubs are after this guy, played 19 times for Rangers last season. A defensive midfielder, obviously we don't have enough of them. To view the link you have to Register or Login

Who Would Make the Best Manager?

edit: Roy quits - have to employ one of these, who do you go for?

English and Global Culture

I am doing a free Future Learn course on this. Monolingual vs Mutilingual and cultural impact. University of Glasgow.

I like this poem.

Good English.

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Also led me to the 2015 BBC documentary Bitter Lake. About Afghanistan.

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Discussion: Premier League Prize Money

Seen Carl mention this on social media now, could change things up and get things moving across the board

Quote:

Premier League to pay out in full on 19/20 prize money with rebate of £320m to be deducted from future seasons.

More money than expected for all, and we already apparently had money to spend. Could also mean we change our targets (maybe explaining the sudden rumours of Sarr I suppose?)

Could be an interesting window

Ted Lasso

Just saw the trailer for Ted Lasso on Apple TV. Looks like filmed st Selhurst?! Anyone know much about it?

Club shop merchandise

I rarely have a look if I am honest, but did look earlier and wish I hadn't, just seen there is a range of (very overpriced ) towells. If I weaken, this will cosy me a fortune :( I honestly don't know how long they have been on sale, but would by every single one if they wasn't so overpriced.
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Speculation: Bertrand Traore

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Not a great source but thought I would share it.

Discussion: Abdoule Toure

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Anyone know anything about this one ?

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Rumour: Ainsley Maitland-Niles

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Slight link here in this sun article. Seems well reported he is being made available for sale by Arsenal. I would be surprised if we weren’t strongly interested (if the price is sub £20m). Young, premier league experience and can play anywhere in midfield or full back. I think this is a young player that Roy would be prepared to play given his experience.

Rumour: Harry Wilson

Palace, Leeds, Newcastle and Southampton are interested in Liverpool winger Harry Wilson.

Liverpool value him at £20M and would be prepared to let him go.

Wilson wants regular Premier League football.

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Rumour: Marco Bizot

AZ Alkmar 29 year-old star keeper - 6’4” with cat like reflexes. Shef Unt also after him. Suggestion is being loked at as replacement for VG should he return to Spain. Dutch keepers have done well in the UK and way of life not so different from other parts of the EU. Not sure if all bullshit about VG but this guy sounds good

Rumour: Florinel Coman

Palace in for the Romanian left winger for 12m if Zaha is sold according to reports coming from Romania. Personally never heard of him.

Transfer Budget Summer 2020

With FFP suspended are we able to spend big this summer?

Having had a quick look through the accounts it seems we had a cash balance of £11.9m at the end of June 2019. We spent £7.4m on transfers last summer and had £7.5m of transfer fees due within one year. Against this we received £46m from the sale of AWB.

If we assume an EBITDA profit of £8m (half of last year due to Covid) then we currently have £51m in the bank. Obviously some of that will go towards financing the academy but I would guess a lot of that won't be paid until completion next year. We owed another £9m in transfer fees due after more than one year but its unclear how much of that we need to pay this summer.

It appears to me we have £30-50m cash in the bank ready for transfers. Am I missing something?

Corona virus impact on crystal palace income

Corona virus impact on crystal palace income

How much have cpfc been affected financial from the pandemic ?

We locked down in march so lost 4 home games in total

Rumour: Grady Diangana

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Ted Lasso

Have I missed a thread on this?

Chelsea Rumoured 3rd Kit

Almost hesistant to bring this up given the drama going on over our own kits, but if this kit leak ends up being real im concerned for the well-being of some of our own :D

Maybe they just really like us

Season tickets?

Apologies if this has been asked already, but what is the situation for season tickets for next season?

Maurizio Sasrri

Sacked by Juventus following champions league elimination

Crystal Palace in World Cup Final!

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Being an expat, emigrant or immigrant

One of the great strengths of the BBS is it is a magnet for those that have left these shores to seek their fortune, love or simply a different lifestyle abroad.

This allows us in South London to hear all sorts of on the ground accounts of what is happening in various countries, while they get to hear about London and of course Palace.

What I find interesting though is that occasionally I feel a sense of loss, that however well they are doing overseas there is a feeling on having missed out, or that its not quite real, an otherness to their existence.

I have lived abroad many times but never for more than a few years at a time, but I have noticed a few times (most of all in Australia) how often ex-pats compared their new country to their old explaining how much better it is. I oft wondered whether they were trying to convince me or constantly justify something to themselves.

So as someone who has a wandering an eye and a oft-returning hanker to pack up and leave Albion himself, can I ask:

Do any of you overseasers regret your departure?

New Palace kits for 2021/22 season.

when does everyone think these will be announced?

what do you want to see? I think houndstooth pattern could be nice on shorts, maybe one of these pantone samples could work well for the away shirt??

Rumour: Harrison Reed

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New York attorney general sues to dissolve NRA

Chuck Rhoades going after the NRA. Grab the popcorn and/or rifle.

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5 Subs Next Season Rejected

Thank feck for that

Discussion: Last minute transfers - it's the palace way !

we always do last minute transfers that fall through and we are all left disappointed.

Not again please parish !!!

Zaha is leaving. Let's just sell him early and move on please ! If we are seen improving our squad early, players may actually consider coming to us!

Rumour: Gerard Deulofeu

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Mentioned at the bottom here...can’t imagine him tracking back in a Roy system ;)

Rumour: Adam Armstrong

I remember seeing him a few years ago and at the time i thought he looked a decent player . Just had an excellent season with Blackburn . Not all players we sign will start but i hope most will be challenging , i see Armstrong in that category .

NB/ Probably another that sadly is just press gossip

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