I know a lot of people won't appreciate another Pardew thread, but here goes...
For some reason yesterday I remembered a post a Newcastle fan made on here when Pards joined us outlining about 10 negative things we could expect from him. At the time I was like, "yeah whatever, deluded Newcastle fan" but remembering some of the points he made, I bet if we read that post today much of it wouldn't be a million miles from the truth. I'm not gonna go trawling through old threads to find that post, but from a quick google search I chanced across a To view the link you have to Register or Login on a Newcastle blog which collated a lot of comments from West Ham, Charlton and Southampton fans criticising Pards, and I think it makes for interesting reading.
Bear in mind that many of these criticisms of his management - which sound awfully familiar to me - are going back as far as 10 years and 5 management jobs. The same mistakes repeated over and over?
I've bolded the most relevant points:
“Pardew was an average manager who punched well above his weight for one year and we loved him for it. However when we were a known quantity he couldn’t change tactics and thats was that…”
“I wanted him out 2 seasons ago and have never wavered. He sneaked us into the prem with a squad that should have walked the Championship, had a good season although with only one plan, fast attack and was found out this season for not having a plan B. His summer signings were awful, no exception as he didnt sign Tevez. A lot of players have one good season and dissapear just like Pardew will. Lower league manager.”
“Shocking tactically. Seems oblivious to the problems that we all see in the stands. And then to come out and say we were unlucky. He is pushing it. Maybe he wants a nice little pay out ;-)”
“He’s lost me after last night. Was the worst Charlton performance I have seen in a long, long time. Tactically all wrong and no passion from the players."
“I actually think the more serious problem is he seems not be able to motivate the team. If that continues we may have a very rocky season ahead, hold on your hats.”
“I’m sorry, but I can’t get past the fact that Luke Varney WAS winning the ball in the air and knocking it on to No-one. Surely that is Pardews thinking/plan.”
“OK, I was one of the first to say I’d lost it with Pards, but that was after over a year in the job – it was the New Year’s Day match v Colchester that was the final straw for me. By then I had heard enough of his b******t and was getting increasingly worried about his tactics and motivational ability.
Unfortunately, those worries have only been exarcerbated by the season to date. How long should we wait for these green shoots of improvement? My patience has run out, others is running out. Above all, what do the players really think? Some of them aren’t stupid, and if we feel he is all over the shop tactically, surely they are aware of that too and will lose (or maybe have lost) faith in him?
“And I’m not saying this to stir things up / create unrest. I’m saying it because I care deeply about the future of our club and have huge sympathy for the board, who potentially have to face more tough decisions unless Pardew can miraculously conjure up a few wins on the spin and a formation that works.”
“He does not see the same game as anyone who I have read posting on here as his post match interview doesnt match one that most on here have witnessed themselves.
“No shots on target unacceptable.
“No passion within the team and failure to accept responsibility on the pitch.
“Unable to pass to each other with any quality in the final third or to retain the ball for any length of time."
“1. Has no tatical knowledge on a game of football
“2. Gets the worst out of half decent players
“3. Consistantly blames others when things arent going his way and NEVER takes any flack for himself
“4. Brings in crap loan signings
“5. Has helped ruin 15 years of hard work that the legend curbs put in
“6. Dosent really have a likeablilty factor
“7. TIME FOR HIM TO GO
“8. TIME FOR HIM TO GO NOW
“9. PARDEW OUT.”
“By the way, a warning to all Newcastle fans about Alan Pardew – when things are going well for Pardew, they tend to go very well. But when the wheels come off, the man becomes somewhat powerless. It is not only his record at the Addicks that suggests this trend.”
“I think he has always been a chancer tactically, playing players out of position, especially in attack.”
“Tactically Pardew appeared naive, he would often get it wrong selection wise and we saw substitutions made before half time on more than one occasion and early double substitutions in the second half were commonplace. In hindsight we were too one dimensional and relied too much on Rickie Lambert who was in a purple patch of free kicks and penalties but rarely scored from total open play.”
“I was never a huge fan to be honest. I thought he never had a plan B. when he came, a charlton fan told me to watch out for bizarre subs. I remember away to Huddersfield early on when we went 2-1 down, he subbed a CB for a CB when we needed fresh attacking options. There was always something I didn’t like about him and never really trusted him.
“Having said that, I’m grateful he signed Rickie and I must say thanks for a great day at Wembley.”
“This was then followed by a very poor pre-season and and very poor start to the season, with players looking unfit and unmotivated. Does this smack of good management?”
Now of course you you go on just about any message board and find comments about the manager being crap, tactically naive etc, but many of these complaints are quite specific and almost exactly mirror our own. Like his bizarre substitutions, repeatedly having to change the lineup at halftime, no plan B, players played out of position, unfit players. This is all further evidence that Pards isn't the man to help us progress IMO, because he continues to repeat mistakes he's been making for 10 years. Perhaps a good indication of why he goes on these long winless runs at all of his clubs.
For some reason yesterday I remembered a post a Newcastle fan made on here when Pards joined us outlining about 10 negative things we could expect from him. At the time I was like, "yeah whatever, deluded Newcastle fan" but remembering some of the points he made, I bet if we read that post today much of it wouldn't be a million miles from the truth. I'm not gonna go trawling through old threads to find that post, but from a quick google search I chanced across a To view the link you have to Register or Login on a Newcastle blog which collated a lot of comments from West Ham, Charlton and Southampton fans criticising Pards, and I think it makes for interesting reading.
Bear in mind that many of these criticisms of his management - which sound awfully familiar to me - are going back as far as 10 years and 5 management jobs. The same mistakes repeated over and over?
I've bolded the most relevant points:
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“Pardew was an average manager who punched well above his weight for one year and we loved him for it. However when we were a known quantity he couldn’t change tactics and thats was that…”
“I wanted him out 2 seasons ago and have never wavered. He sneaked us into the prem with a squad that should have walked the Championship, had a good season although with only one plan, fast attack and was found out this season for not having a plan B. His summer signings were awful, no exception as he didnt sign Tevez. A lot of players have one good season and dissapear just like Pardew will. Lower league manager.”
“Shocking tactically. Seems oblivious to the problems that we all see in the stands. And then to come out and say we were unlucky. He is pushing it. Maybe he wants a nice little pay out ;-)”
“He’s lost me after last night. Was the worst Charlton performance I have seen in a long, long time. Tactically all wrong and no passion from the players."
“I actually think the more serious problem is he seems not be able to motivate the team. If that continues we may have a very rocky season ahead, hold on your hats.”
“I’m sorry, but I can’t get past the fact that Luke Varney WAS winning the ball in the air and knocking it on to No-one. Surely that is Pardews thinking/plan.”
“OK, I was one of the first to say I’d lost it with Pards, but that was after over a year in the job – it was the New Year’s Day match v Colchester that was the final straw for me. By then I had heard enough of his b******t and was getting increasingly worried about his tactics and motivational ability.
Unfortunately, those worries have only been exarcerbated by the season to date. How long should we wait for these green shoots of improvement? My patience has run out, others is running out. Above all, what do the players really think? Some of them aren’t stupid, and if we feel he is all over the shop tactically, surely they are aware of that too and will lose (or maybe have lost) faith in him?
“And I’m not saying this to stir things up / create unrest. I’m saying it because I care deeply about the future of our club and have huge sympathy for the board, who potentially have to face more tough decisions unless Pardew can miraculously conjure up a few wins on the spin and a formation that works.”
“He does not see the same game as anyone who I have read posting on here as his post match interview doesnt match one that most on here have witnessed themselves.
“No shots on target unacceptable.
“No passion within the team and failure to accept responsibility on the pitch.
“Unable to pass to each other with any quality in the final third or to retain the ball for any length of time."
“1. Has no tatical knowledge on a game of football
“2. Gets the worst out of half decent players
“3. Consistantly blames others when things arent going his way and NEVER takes any flack for himself
“4. Brings in crap loan signings
“5. Has helped ruin 15 years of hard work that the legend curbs put in
“6. Dosent really have a likeablilty factor
“7. TIME FOR HIM TO GO
“8. TIME FOR HIM TO GO NOW
“9. PARDEW OUT.”
“By the way, a warning to all Newcastle fans about Alan Pardew – when things are going well for Pardew, they tend to go very well. But when the wheels come off, the man becomes somewhat powerless. It is not only his record at the Addicks that suggests this trend.”
“I think he has always been a chancer tactically, playing players out of position, especially in attack.”
“Tactically Pardew appeared naive, he would often get it wrong selection wise and we saw substitutions made before half time on more than one occasion and early double substitutions in the second half were commonplace. In hindsight we were too one dimensional and relied too much on Rickie Lambert who was in a purple patch of free kicks and penalties but rarely scored from total open play.”
“I was never a huge fan to be honest. I thought he never had a plan B. when he came, a charlton fan told me to watch out for bizarre subs. I remember away to Huddersfield early on when we went 2-1 down, he subbed a CB for a CB when we needed fresh attacking options. There was always something I didn’t like about him and never really trusted him.
“Having said that, I’m grateful he signed Rickie and I must say thanks for a great day at Wembley.”
“This was then followed by a very poor pre-season and and very poor start to the season, with players looking unfit and unmotivated. Does this smack of good management?”
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Now of course you you go on just about any message board and find comments about the manager being crap, tactically naive etc, but many of these complaints are quite specific and almost exactly mirror our own. Like his bizarre substitutions, repeatedly having to change the lineup at halftime, no plan B, players played out of position, unfit players. This is all further evidence that Pards isn't the man to help us progress IMO, because he continues to repeat mistakes he's been making for 10 years. Perhaps a good indication of why he goes on these long winless runs at all of his clubs.
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